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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: sonickteam2 on June 28, 2008, 05:06:00 pm
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Hey you smart tech-savvy people.
My wife is pestering me to buy her that Kindle thing from Amazon. Anyone have it or know someone who does? Just looking for some input cause i dont want to buy a $300 p.o.s.
:) thankie!
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My brother in law, against my better advice, purchased one.
It's sweet, but I still think the price is too high. He's a heavy book reader and I figure he'll have the device paid for in about 14 months. I figured it would take me about 2.5 years to pay for itself.
I'm sure you have some specifics I can answer for you, so shoot....
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thought this might be helpful
http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/07/two-month-kindle-review-and-full-text-of-my-washington-times-interview/ (http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/07/two-month-kindle-review-and-full-text-of-my-washington-times-interview/)
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I'm a bit surprised he reads computer books on the Kindle. One of my chief complaints was the poor graphics rendering (this is done by the publisher, not Amazon, so it varies outrageously per book).
I just can't see reading a computer book without the tables and screen shots.
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Was listening to a detailed revue on NPR this morning and the basic sentiment seemed to be to wait for the next generation of lighter and easier to use readers to come out. Apparently this one doesn't have the most user friendly interface.
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This might seem like an ill-informed question, partly because it is, but...since one can go online with a Kindle, does that mean one can *hear* stuff from the Internet on a Kindle like Youtube, Rhapsody, Pandora, etc.?
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Originally posted by OscarTheWilde:
This might seem like an ill-informed question, partly because it is, but...since one can go online with a Kindle, does that mean one can *hear* stuff from the Internet on a Kindle like Youtube, Rhapsody, Pandora, etc.?
You cannot. The Kindle does not have wifi, instead it uses EVDO (cell phone data connection) provided by Sprint, and it's limited to receiving documents/books/magazines/newspapers. There is no "web browser" on the Kindle, simply a browser for the Amazon Kindle Store.
Nor does it have a color screen - it's back lit (read: super bright) black and white, so it's not conducive to you yube.
Lastly, no sound card either, so no music.
It's simply a book reader.
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Van, I appreciate all your help, but in a link within PDX's link above, Bancroft sez:
"It doesn??t go widely advertised (I think they??d sell a lot more if they promoted this feature), but there??s a web browser built into the device, so you can use it to read websites or RSS feeds directly (Google Reader Mobile is PERFECT for this. I use the iPhone version dozens of times a day).
"You don??t have to pay to read blogs and newspapers (in fact, I??ll go so far as to say you??re rich and/or foolish if you do). You can look things up in Wikipedia (which makes the Kindle a magical physical manifestation of Wikipedia as a book).
"You can use it for whatever else you want to do on the web (tip: use Google??s Mobile products to pre-format web pages for the smaller screen). And all at no charge.
I may be missing a nuance, but it sounds like he's saying Kindle doubles as a way to access the Internet to me!
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thanks for all your help people, btw. sorry to start then abandon this thread.
As far as being able to access the internet...it seems that if you could do that Amazon would want to advertise that as a selling point.
That said, you know those ticket scanners that some venues use to scan your bar codes? well you can get on the internet with those bad boys too. But you'll probably get in trouble if you do while you're at work!
The internets are a funny thing!
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So I called my brother in law to verify what I read and he said I was wrong about a few things, but right in practice.
He said there is a built in sound card that can play DRM free MP3s, but the storage for the Kindle is so small (~256 MB) that it's not conceivable to use it as a music player. He supposes that you could copy your mp3's to a Storage card and play them that way, but can't imagine why anyone would do so. There is virtually no way to install a DRM player (or any software really) because of the Linux OS and lack of free space. He actually turned off the sound because all it was for was telling him that he screwed something up or that his battery was dying, both of which he could see on the screen.
As for the "web browser" he says it's generous that Kindle calls it that. It's a "Text Only" browser and can't read a lot todays major web sites that rely on plug-ins (he said ESPN and the NYT are useless, unless you use RSS). He likened it to using your cell phones web browser - he can't think of a single plug-in that works, including Java, which makes most useful internet sites work. It's used priamrily to deliver RSS feeds and the text of those articles/blogs (which you subscribe to using the kindle service). So it might work for your Google RSS feeds, if that's what you're looking for.
But don't take my word for it. See a kindle in your area. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_5915932_1?ie=UTF8&docId=1000230941&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=special-offers-3&pf_rd_r=06T5A33S8Y6QGP153AV7&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=399789801&pf_rd_i=B000FI73MA)
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esquire said it looks like a fisher price, my first reader.
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what is better? limiting the amount of paper used for magazines and books, hence limiting the cutting down of trees, that these types of devices were designed for in the first place, i guess. or the filling of landfills and poisoning of the soil with all these techno. gifts after they break? last time i checked, computers don't biodegrade. and the "recycling program" for phones, computers, etc.., is a joke. china is a fine exaple of that. the only thing worth "recycling" to most is the gold to be found in computer circuitry.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Java, which makes most useful internet sites work.
unless you mean javascript, is you crazy?
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Originally posted by walkonby:
esquire said it looks like a fisher price, my first reader.
if only GGW were around to ridicule you for reading esquire
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by walkonby:
esquire said it looks like a fisher price, my first reader.
if only GGW were around to ridicule you for reading esquire [/b]
atleast i don't read gq. now that's gay!!!!!
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I like Esquire now and then.
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where is GGW?
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Probably off at Jackson Hole, Kiawah or the Hamptons.
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Probably on some trip hiking up peaks 15 miles a day, taking smoke breaks on the hour.
Originally posted by very sonick:
where is GGW?
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Hope you all didn't rush out and buy the old one...
Kindle 2.0: ""is significantly thinner, has a better screen, is more stylish and includes fixes to some of the user interface annoyances" (http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/26/249-kindle-2-0-significantly-thinner-and-frog-stylish/)
And the rumor is it's coming in around $249. Now that's much closer to the smackie approved $199 price point. Look for it in September.
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cooool. glad i waited then.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Hope you all didn't rush out and buy the old one...
Kindle 2.0: ""is significantly thinner, has a better screen, is more stylish and includes fixes to some of the user interface annoyances" (http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/26/249-kindle-2-0-significantly-thinner-and-frog-stylish/)
And the rumor is it's coming in around $249. Now that's much closer to the smackie approved $199 price point. Look for it in September.
fantastic. that's good news for my christmas wish list.
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i can't wait for some overinflated fisher price toy to replace your christmas wish list.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
i can't wait for some overinflated fisher price toy to replace your christmas wish list.
i cant wait til you get bored of posting on here.
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Originally posted by very sonick:
Originally posted by walkonby:
i can't wait for some overinflated fisher price toy to replace your christmas wish list.
i cant wait til you get bored of posting on here. [/b]
this thread or this place?
my boredom will be replaced by downloadable bit maps of brain function causing me to seek enlightenment from the trees and rocks and blades of glass glistening with morning mountain dew.
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I saw my first Kindle on the metro last week. I just don't see the point. iPod's make sense. I can listen to my collection without taking a binder of 600 cds with me. Who carries more than one or two books with them at a time? Not me...
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Originally posted by DriveWay:
I saw my first Kindle on the metro last week. I just don't see the point. iPod's make sense. I can listen to my collection without taking a binder of 600 cds with me. Who carries more than one or two books with them at a time? Not me...
Newspapers and magazines...gotta add those.
At any point in the day, my bag used to be stuffed with a local rag, The Economist and a book. I now read the paper online before I leave for work, I podcast the Economist and generally have switched to audiobooks so I too no longer have a need for a Kindle. But I can see many folks who would like their newspaper, magazines and books all in one place.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Hope you all didn't rush out and buy the old one...
Kindle 2.0: ""is significantly thinner, has a better screen, is more stylish and includes fixes to some of the user interface annoyances" (http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/26/249-kindle-2-0-significantly-thinner-and-frog-stylish/)
And the rumor is it's coming in around $249. Now that's much closer to the smackie approved $199 price point. Look for it in September.
Then again, maybe not... (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/28/extinguish-the-rumors-no-new-kindle-this-year/index.html?partner=rssuserland&emc=rss)
August 28, 2008, 12:19 pm
Extinguish the Rumors: No New Amazon Kindle This Year
By Brad Stone
Talk of a new version of the Kindle e-book
reader, aimed at college students, has been echoing around the blogosphere and has even reached your dutifully vacationing Bits correspondent. I asked Craig Berman, Amazon??s chief spokesman, for comment on a possible Kindle 2.0, and today he responded.
??Don??t believe everything you read,? Mr. Berman said. ??There??s a lot of rumor and speculation about the Kindle. One thing I can tell you for sure is that there will be no new version of the Kindle this year. A new version is possible sometime next year at the earliest.?
Mr. Berman declined to speculate about the new model or if it will be aimed at a particular audience ?? though the $5.5 billion textbook market, and all those heavy student backpacks, certainly seems like an appealing target for e-book publishers.
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And by "this year" Amazon meant Feb 9:
Kindle 2 - Hands on (http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/09/kindle-2-first-hands-on/)
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I've been waiting eagerly for The Economist to come to the Kindle, at which point I was going to seriously consider getting a Kindle.
Then when it finally did last week, the Kindle version cost more ($125) than the print version ($85) and doesn't provide access to the full web version, nor do you get the Audio Edition.
Epic Fail. When looking at other magazines, that doesn't seem to be standard operating procedure.
Any Kindle users want to shed some light on this?
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weird. my sister and i agreed to get this for my dad today. i'll let you know what he thinks, he's been asking me if he should get one for months
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weird. my sister and i agreed to get this for my dad today. i'll let you know what he thinks, he's been asking me if he should get one for months
My brother-in-law has one and loves it. He's an avid book reader so if your dad is a book guy, then everybody seems to droul over it. I'm more concerned about the periodiacl portion of it.
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yeah my dad reads a book or two a week
my mom might even double that. just hope she doesnt steal it
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They have at least relented a little bit and you can put up to 6 Kindles on one account so they can share books. But yes, that will require two kindle's.
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she already stole his prius!
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Women are well known to steal all the fruits of mens hard earned labor.....
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So I found a report on NPR yesterday that said that Amazon makes 70% on the price of books and mags on the Kindle, and the publisher keeps 30%.
That would explain the Economist being as expensive as it is and not giving you web access or the Audio Edition. If I've done my math correctly:
At $125 a year for the Kindle subscription, The Economist is taking in around $37 per subscriber.
Amazon on the other hand is bringing in $88 per subscriber.
If I were The Economist, I wouldn't give web or Audio access for $37 either. Boo for Amazon.
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One thing that never seems to be addressed is that some of us (and yes, there are a lot of us) who just love the physical sensuality of holding a book or magazine in our hands. Personally, I don't care about the mags, but a good book has it's own pleasures. Very much like those of us who require the physical album or CD with art work when it comes to the downloads vs. physical product arguement.
Sure, Kindle has it's advantages but it will never replace the thrill of having your own library of words.
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Right now Smackette is in your camp, Jag.
But I can just about guarantee that if this Economist thing gets worked out and I end up getting a Kindle, she'll steal it from me in under a month. Women. You can't live with em....
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Finally, some legitimate competition (no offense Sony):
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/10/nook-in-the-flesh-06.jpg)
The Barnes and Noble "nook"....$259. (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/?cds2Pid=30919)
If nothing else, expect a price war near Xmas.
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So I found a report on NPR yesterday that said that Amazon makes 70% on the price of books and mags on the Kindle, and the publisher keeps 30%.
That would explain the Economist being as expensive as it is and not giving you web access or the Audio Edition. If I've done my math correctly:
At $125 a year for the Kindle subscription, The Economist is taking in around $37 per subscriber.
Amazon on the other hand is bringing in $88 per subscriber.
If I were The Economist, I wouldn't give web or Audio access for $37 either. Boo for Amazon.
If the music industry had gotten together as quickly as the Magazine industry did to thwart the Kindle Model, then iTunes wouldn't have near the dominance. This might be the tipping point for me getting an e-reader:
LEADING PUBLISHERS FORM VENTURE TO OFFER CONSUMERS NEW DIGITAL STOREFRONT AND PORTABLE READING EXPERIENCE
Initiative Will also Offer Marketers Rich Array of Innovative Advertising Opportunities
New York, NY, December 8, 2009 ? Cond Nast, Hearst, Meredith, News Corporation and Time Inc. today jointly announced that they have entered into an independent venture to develop open standards for a new digital storefront and related technology that will allow consumers to enjoy their favorite media content on portable digital devices.
The goal of this digital initiative is fourfold, to create: a highly featured common reading application capable of rendering the distinctive look and feel of each publication; a robust publishing platform optimized for multiple devices, operating systems and screen sizes; a consumer storefront offering an extensive selection of reading options; and a rich array of innovative advertising opportunities.
Beyond the publications of the equity partners, the venture will welcome other publishers to offer their content via this new digital platform. Publishers will derive revenue from content and advertising sales, as well as from print subscriptions.
"For the consumer, this digital initiative will provide access to an extraordinary selection of engaging content products, all customized for easy download on the device of their choice, including smartphones, e-readers and laptops," explained John Squires, the venture's interim managing director. "Once purchased, this content will be 'unlocked' for consumers to enjoy anywhere, anytime, on any platform."
For publishers and advertisers, the venture will offer an attractive, cost-efficient, consumer-focused environment. Advertisers will be able to utilize innovative formats that benefit from the highly engaging, interactive nature of this new medium. In addition to entirely new magazine and newspaper reading experiences, content selections may ultimately include books, comic books, blogs and other media.
For the hardware, software and retail industries, the initiative will provide dynamic new business opportunities by organizing a library of quality content with a common format and technical specifications. The venture partners represent an unduplicated audience of 144.6 million according to Mediamark Research & Intelligence (MRI). By the end of 2010, Forrester Research estimates that 10 million e-readers will be sold in the U.S., and according to m:Metrics (comScore), there will be over 50 million smartphones in the U.S. by the end of 2010.
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One thing that never seems to be addressed is that some of us (and yes, there are a lot of us) who just love the physical sensuality of holding a book or magazine in our hands. Personally, I don't care about the mags, but a good book has it's own pleasures. Very much like those of us who require the physical album or CD with art work when it comes to the downloads vs. physical product arguement.
Sure, Kindle has it's advantages but it will never replace the thrill of having your own library of words.
Not to mention that anyone using a Kindle just automatically looks like a douche.
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One thing that never seems to be addressed is that some of us (and yes, there are a lot of us) who just love the physical sensuality of holding a book or magazine in our hands. Personally, I don't care about the mags, but a good book has it's own pleasures. Very much like those of us who require the physical album or CD with art work when it comes to the downloads vs. physical product arguement.
Sure, Kindle has it's advantages but it will never replace the thrill of having your own library of words.
Not to mention that anyone using a Kindle just automatically looks like a douche.
Spoken like a judgemental West Virginia redneck.
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One thing that never seems to be addressed is that some of us (and yes, there are a lot of us) who just love the physical sensuality of holding a book or magazine in our hands. Personally, I don't care about the mags, but a good book has it's own pleasures. Very much like those of us who require the physical album or CD with art work when it comes to the downloads vs. physical product arguement.
Sure, Kindle has it's advantages but it will never replace the thrill of having your own library of words.
Not to mention that anyone using a Kindle just automatically looks like a douche.
Spoken like a judgemental West Virginia redneck.
Doctor Doom = mr_goodbomb ??
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Finally, some legitimate competition (no offense Sony):
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/10/nook-in-the-flesh-06.jpg)
The Barnes and Noble "nook"....$259. (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/?cds2Pid=30919)
If nothing else, expect a price war near Xmas.
Wired twitted this about the Nook
Our own @pgcat just played with the Nook for a few minutes: "Compact but slow, clumsy user interface. Tiny LCD screen adds little value."
not exactly a ringing endorsement...
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i'll just wait for the apple tablet/e-reader due out next year
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Kindle 2 can charge over USB. I agree that limited titles, and additional charges for international users when buying titles decreases the appeal, though.
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What if you couldn't get the new release book electronically for 4 weeks to six months after it's release (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704825504574586291583582158.html)?
Could you imagine if the music industry had done this to Apple?
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So I got a Kindle for Xmas and must say, I like it much more than I thought I would.
For anybody else who has one, I would recommend Calibre (http://calibre-ebook.com/) software for avoiding charges to wirelessly deliver newspapers and magazine's to you device. I use my paid access to The Economist web site to add the print edition to my kindle wihtout paying the Kindle price for the mag. It's pretty sweet.
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Kosmette just bought a nook....
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I've had a Kindle 1 for about a year before I bought the DX. What I like and recommend over the Kindle 2 is the incredible increase in screen space. More screen space equals more words on the page and less "turning the page"
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Kosmette just bought a nook....
Let me know what she thinks of the software. I used one right before the holidays and it was sluggish but I hear they're really making it snappy these days.
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Kosmette just bought a nook....
Let me know what she thinks of the software. I used one right before the holidays and it was sluggish but I hear they're really making it snappy these days.
She got the new SW and is pleased so far, she wanted a reader that handled PDFs better since a lot of her class readings are provided in that format.
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i got a kindle for christmas, completely unexpected. and i kind of love it. it won't replace my purchase of regular books (yet), especially since i still read a lot of graphic novels.
i enjoy having it for travel since i can carry multiple books without actually doing it and can read the onion, etc. to be fair though, i don't have a smart phone - so other than an ipod, i don't really have any kind of technological device to keep me amused during my commute - so maybe that is why i'm pretty partial to it. also, i already have enough shit in my purse without lugging a couple books around in addition.
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I've been looking over Kosmette's shoulder while she is using her Nook and come to the conclusion that really is a nice size for a portable tablet/e-reader/ etc. Which of course makes one wonder what Apple was thinking with regards to the iPad, other than it just being another platform for peddling content to.
I suspect much like the iPod, the masses will embrace the iPad and its short coming, leaving the enthusiasts to bicker among themselves as to which niche device is the superior product.
It's a shame cause Apple has a leg up in the apps department and will the Nintendo's, Nooks, Android developers ever catch up.
Of course until we can easily swap SIM cards between devices, we'll never be able to one day be able to cart around an iPhone and the next day use a Nook/Kindle device as a phone without having two voice plans.
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I agree Kosmo, and that's why I went with the Kindle 2 over the DX. The small form factor of that and my netbook means that I can carry everything in my 10inch mini messenger back which is super convenient. More important than size though is the e-ink screen - that's where the iPad is really going to fail and it's just a matter of time before start to realize how hard on the eyes a back lit screen is (and kosmette will realize how easy on the eyes her nook screen is).
As for the apps, somebody will make a simple app port program from iPhone to Android, so that won't be the problem. The danger comes in all the different screen sizes for all of the Android running devices...some of those ports are going to look awful.
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I am happy with my Kindle. I only want more books from Murakami and Chabon to be available.
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I was tempted to put this in the Southwest bashing thread, but I'll put it here instead. Do to a change in Smackette's plans, I flew Southwest yesterday instead of Virgin.
And for the first time yesterday, I had a flight attendant tell me to stowe my kindle during take off. I asked if he was serious? He said "Yes. I see the wireless is off and I know that it doesn't use any power except when you change the page, we just don't want any items flying around the cabin in an emergency."
I looked at Smackette's hard cover novel in her lap that she was reading (easily 5x the size of my kindle) and then at my kindle, then an "are you REALLY serious?" look back at him...
"OK. I'll let you keep it out, just don't turn the page."
"No, don't worry about it - I'll put it away. I'm sorry you didn't get what you want for Christmas...." then I looked back at Smackette "This is why I fly Virgin. They JUST GET IT."
He didn't ask me to put it away for landing.
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Now that Amazon sells more ebooks than hard back books and the Kindle price has hit Smackie's sweet spot, this was fairly poigniant:
Why I only Buy Kindle Books (http://gizmodo.com/5575592/why-i-only-buy-kindle-books)
"If anything, Kindle's in a better position than iTunes, since it doesn't restrict you to Amazon's hardware. It's a true service.".....He doesn't to sell you a Kindle. He wants to sell you Kindle.
Much smarter than Apple was with iTunes. I can't imagine how many more songs Apple would have sold if they had been open with FairPlay.
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i heard the i pad destroyed the e book reader world. is that true?
destroyed as in . . . why buy the others when i pad can do it and so much more.
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i heard the i pad destroyed the e book reader world. is that true?
destroyed as in . . . why buy the others when i pad can do it and so much more.
July 19: "We?ve reached a tipping point with the new price of Kindle?the growth rate of Kindle device unit sales has tripled since we lowered the price from $259 to $189."
The Kindle has also seen an improvement in sales in each month since the iPad came out. I think there were a lot of people who were waiting for the iPad to see how it would work as a reader. Most people have siad it's fine for short periods of time, but avid readers have decided on the E-ink screen (and Amazon's price point).
As the article states, Amazon's Kindle service (available on the iPad) has flourished because their e-books are available on many platforms, including the Kindle reader and mobile phones. That was the point of my post.
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i heard the i pad destroyed the e book reader world. is that true?
destroyed as in . . . why buy the others when i pad can do it and so much more.
July 19: "We?ve reached a tipping point with the new price of Kindle?the growth rate of Kindle device unit sales has tripled since we lowered the price from $259 to $189."
The Kindle has also seen an improvement in sales in each month since the iPad came out. I think there were a lot of people who were waiting for the iPad to see how it would work as a reader. Most people have siad it's fine for short periods of time, but avid readers have decided on the E-ink screen (and Amazon's price point).
As the article states, Amazon's Kindle service (available on the iPad) has flourished because their e-books are available on many platforms, including the Kindle reader and mobile phones. That was the point of my post.
i guess the point of my post . . . was that i don't read. ;D
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i guess the point of my post . . . was that i don't read. ;D
An iPad is perfect for you.
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I'm going to be getting either a Kindle or Nook or some sort of reader for xmas. I have no need to do anything besides read e-books on the device. Are the available libraries (amazon/barnes &noble) for these devices comparable? Or should hardware/aesthetics be the deciding factor here. I've looked a bit online and can't find anything comparing the ebook selections at Amazon and B&N.
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I'm going to be getting either a Kindle or Nook or some sort of reader for xmas. I have no need to do anything besides read e-books on the device. Are the available libraries (amazon/barnes &noble) for these devices comparable? Or should hardware/aesthetics be the deciding factor here. I've looked a bit online and can't find anything comparing the ebook selections at Amazon and B&N.
I just sold my second generation Kindle and ordered the Kindle Touch (w/ special offers) which I have been waiting for for some time.
I think the libraries are very close but what I liked the Amazon product over B&N is the public library checkout of books (if your library supports it, mine only currently supports Amazon) and the one free book a month for Amazon prime subscribers (of which I'm a subscriber).
Honestly, pick 10 books you're likely to read in the next year and see which company has more of them available and at what price. Then check you local library and see if they support e-Pub (Nook) or OverDrive (Kindle).
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I'm going to be getting either a Kindle or Nook or some sort of reader for xmas. I have no need to do anything besides read e-books on the device. Are the available libraries (amazon/barnes &noble) for these devices comparable? Or should hardware/aesthetics be the deciding factor here. I've looked a bit online and can't find anything comparing the ebook selections at Amazon and B&N.
I just sold my second generation Kindle and ordered the Kindle Touch (w/ special offers) which I have been waiting for for some time.
I think the libraries are very close but what I liked the Amazon product over B&N is the public library checkout of books (if your library supports it, mine only currently supports Amazon) and the one free book a month for Amazon prime subscribers (of which I'm a subscriber).
Honestly, pick 10 books you're likely to read in the next year and see which company has more of them available and at what price. Then check you local library and see if they support e-Pub (Nook) or OverDrive (Kindle).
Thanks a ton. I didn't know about that e-pub/overdrive thing. My library does overdrive. Kindle it is. Thanks!
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Kindle it is. Thanks!
No problem - if you're only doing reading, than stay away from the Kindle Fire - your eyes will thank me for it later. If you want a browser, movies, TV and music..than look at the Fire.
I went with the Touch because I never used my keyboard (I purchased all my books via a web browser and pushed them to the device) and I also rarely NEEDED the 3G (wifi would have been sufficient 99% of the time). It actually would have been cheaper for me overseas if I had wifi instead of paying international rates for data (my 2nd Gen only had 3G).
On the w/ offers, for paying less for your Kindle, Amazon will put ads as the screensaver (replacing the photos of authors if you've seen other Kindles) and a banner ad at the bottom of the Home screen (essentially you table of books on the device). It does not popup when you read nor are the banner ads at the bottom of open books. I was opposed to the "with offers" version originally, but there is a guy on another forum I read that has kept track of the money he saves by using the offers and has nearly paid off the price of his Kindle with the money he saved by purchasing the offers ($10 for a $20 Amazon Gift Card, buy one Mp3 Album, get one free, etc.). It kind of sounds like it might be a pretty good deal.
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is kindle still "relevant"? my significant other male friend has had one for awhile, and i notice he uses it less. same with those silly ipod things. but he claims he still loves it. as a pretend writer who wants to be published, even if in highlights magazine (that'd go over) to start, has the kindle or just general download dominant market that "changed the landscape of publishing" still rain supreme? i know that the online downloadable market is here to stay and it can be made profitable if done correctly, but i still hate it. any news of it having a retreat makes me smile.
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...because when I think of relevancy, I think to myself, "I wonder what's happening in the house of Walkonby and his husband."
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everyone is relevant . . . when i realized that, it all became easier. i think i just recently realized that, by the way.