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http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-12-04/billy-joel-will-play-madison-square-garden-for-the-rest-of-his-life
Billy Joel Will Play Madison Square Garden for the Rest of His Life
By Claire Suddath December 04, 2013
Madison Square Garden is New York?s most famous arena, the site of the Ali-Frazier Fight of the Century, the venue for the annual Westminster Dog Show, and the place that the Knicks, the Rangers, and the Piano Man call home. That?s right, Billy Joel has turned the Garden into his own personal Vegas by promising to play one show every month starting in January 2014, going on and on until either he or his fans are exhausted.
The idea of an artist-in-residency program at a stadium as big as the Garden is a spectacular undertaking, but the 64-year-old Joel knows exactly what he?s getting into. He has already played 46 shows at the arena during his career. A banner even hangs from the rafters celebrating his record-setting run of a dozen concerts in a row in 2006: ?The longest run of a single artist,? as the banner boasts. Next to it hangs Elton John?s banner for playing the most MSG shows of any artist, although with this new residency Joel would surpass John?s 62-concert record in a little more than a year.
Still, the Garden is a huge venue. And with no new pop album since 1993, it?s easy to question Joel?s ability to draw such a large, self-replenishing crowd to a single location. Then again, his 2002 Broadway show Movin? Out enjoyed a successful three-year run, and he all but stole the show from Paul McCartney and the Who at the 12-12-12 Sandy Relief concert held, appropriately, at the Garden.
So who knows? Maybe he really can pull it off. All he needs to do is fill a facility with a concert capacity of 19,500. Assuming that many tickets are available for every Billy Joel performance, that works out to:
? 235,000: The total number of people who could theoretically see a once-a-month Billy Joel show at the Garden every year.
? 35.4 years: The time it would take for every resident of New York City to see him once.
? 1 hour, 7 minutes: The amount of time Joel will spend playing Piano Man at MSG every year.
Of course, that?s assuming he plays the hit song at every show. In an interview with Rolling Stone earlier this year, Joel mentioned that he wanted to start playing more obscure songs in concert. ?If I was going to play again in places like New York, I would probably feature entire albums. It would give me a chance to do songs we haven?t played,? he said. So if you want to see Billy Joel at Madison Square Garden, just make sure you don?t accidentally buy tickets to the show where he plays nothing but songs from his 2001 piano concerto album.
Suddath is a staff writer for Bloomberg Businessweek.
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prince could pull this off. phish could pull this off. pearl jam could pull this off. but billy joel? when was the last time he even released any new material?
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I don't think you're familiar with the 99% of America who don't post on music forums.
prince could pull this off. phish could pull this off. pearl jam could pull this off. but billy joel? when was the last time he even released any new material?
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i understand what you are saying . . . but i understand music too. msg aint no vegas. to pull this off at msg, you better be fucking huge and still fucking relevant beyond everyone else. does billy joel really fall into such a category? i can see elton john being able to do this. billy joel is no icon like elton.
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Probably 90% of his fans are within 300 miles of NYC. One show a month spreads it out over the year; his fans can make long range plans to attend. He'll make a mint without having to do x shows a week in Vegas. And best of all for him, he doesn't have to live in Vegas.
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Based on my experience with going to a state university in New York, every NY/Long Island Jew loves Billy Joel. And there's a lot of Jews in New York and Long Island.
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msg aint no vegas.
But NYC is. I can think of a lot of people I know who would schedule a vacation to NYC just to do this.
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but billy joel? when was the last time he even released any new material?
Here, let me read the post DIRECTLY ABOVE THE ONE IN WHICH YOU POSIT THE QUESTION:
And with no new pop album since 1993, it?s easy to question Joel?s ability to draw such a large, self-replenishing crowd to a single location.
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bizarro world. i wonder what artist christians would get behind to make this happen?
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but billy joel? when was the last time he even released any new material?
Here, let me read the post DIRECTLY ABOVE THE ONE IN WHICH YOU POSIT THE QUESTION:
And with no new pop album since 1993, it?s easy to question Joel?s ability to draw such a large, self-replenishing crowd to a single location.
i saw that you dildo . . . i thought it meant "pop only." i wasnt sure if he has released anyting at all lately.
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i saw that you dildo . . . i thought it meant "pop only." i wasnt sure if he has released anyting at all lately.
For some reason, I am of the belief he put out a neo-classical piano album around 2000, of which, he plays none in concert.
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well neither would i . . . if i released some bullshit like that.
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bizarro world. i wonder what artist christians would get behind to make this happen?
Prolly Celine Dion. I'm guessing Celine Dion.
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oh hell yeah . . . those jesus lovers, worship them some celine.
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bizarro world. i wonder what artist christians would get behind to make this happen?
Funny you mention Christians, because my immediate thought was your fellow homosexuals would flock to LA or NYC once a month for Gaga, assuming she changed around the stageshow dramatically every month so it was like a one-time only Cirque de GaGay spectacular. If they did it in NYC, Elvis Duran could live host his radio show as the opener.
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God, I could manipulate so much $$$ out of the homosexual, two-income community if I wanted to...
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you obviously dont understand the gay world at all. we have moved on from gaga. we need some other woman artist to suck her dick for a few years. i think it will be miley next.
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you obviously dont understand the gay world at all. we have moved on from gaga. we need some other woman artist to suck her dick for a few years. i think it will be miley next.
What about Bette Midler? Do you all still love her?
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if she would go back to performing at bathhouses . . . maybe.
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sorry hoya . . . i blame julian. he makes you want to cut yourself.
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Arguably Taylor Swift could pull this off in Nashville, Dallas, or Houston monthly. In a football stadium. And the field would be female-only, general admission, under 25, and require anyone wanting field access to be in footie-pajamas as it is designated "Taylor's Sleepover Party Zone." If we can get the permits to actually allow them to camp out in sleeping bags afterwards and a noise-curfew dispensation so the endless chatter about "BOYS!!!!" at 3am doesn't solicit a fine, this would be gold. GOLD.
Taylor Swift would be removing feces from her rectum with platinum bars as a paper substitute.
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I think this is a smart move. Billy will make a lot of money because:
1.) People visit NYC all year round. If they make a special trip to see the Statue of Liberty or a big Broadway show, they'll go see Billy Joel at MSG as an authentic New York experience.
2.) There's quite a few of these residencies in Vegas (Britney, Motley Crue, Elton John, Cher, Garth Brooks, Celene Dion). For now, on the east coast, he has a monopoly.
Whether he has released any new music recently is irrelevant. The Rolling Stones and Paul McCartney release new music, too. But when they play big shows, it's 90% big hits.
However, I read an interview with him and he said he's sick of just playing "the hits." (s I'm sure all classic rock artists of his generation are.) He said that if he were to tour again, he'd try to do the "play a classic album in its entirety" thing to play some rarer stuff. I don't think this residency will allow him to do that. I assume there are going to be tourist prices for these shows and they are going to want to hear the hits.
Brian
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brian, always makes more sense, than julian
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I think this is a smart move. Billy will make a lot of money because:
1.) People visit NYC all year round. If they make a special trip to see the Statue of Liberty or a big Broadway show, they'll go see Billy Joel at MSG as an authentic New York experience.
2.) There's quite a few of these residencies in Vegas (Britney, Motley Crue, Elton John, Cher, Garth Brooks, Celene Dion). For now, on the east coast, he has a monopoly.
Whether he has released any new music recently is irrelevant. The Rolling Stones and Paul McCartney release new music, too. But when they play big shows, it's 90% big hits.
However, I read an interview with him and he said he's sick of just playing "the hits." (s I'm sure all classic rock artists of his generation are.) He said that if he were to tour again, he'd try to do the "play a classic album in its entirety" thing to play some rarer stuff. I don't think this residency will allow him to do that. I assume there are going to be tourist prices for these shows and they are going to want to hear the hits.
Brian
See, this is what I don't get about you. When you don't actively attempt to troll, you're actually well-thought out and reasoned in your logic. You have an ability to breakdown a situation intelligently. You've shown all these traits when I've met you. But you keep going back to the trolling. Why? You don't need to do that, B. You don't. You can be a legitimate member on here, you know that from experience. Be another Julian, not another Rhett.
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brian, always makes more sense, than julian
My Taylor Swift idea is the biggest financial windfall perhaps ever proposed on here. US Spending on Taylor Swift would become one of the five biggest economies IN THE WORLD on its own. You can't poke a hole in an idea that good.
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ok, ok . . . it was a good idea.
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I prefer snarky, funny troll Brian over stating the obvious Brian. And he's often 100% even when he's trolling.
I think this is a smart move. Billy will make a lot of money because:
1.) People visit NYC all year round. If they make a special trip to see the Statue of Liberty or a big Broadway show, they'll go see Billy Joel at MSG as an authentic New York experience.
2.) There's quite a few of these residencies in Vegas (Britney, Motley Crue, Elton John, Cher, Garth Brooks, Celene Dion). For now, on the east coast, he has a monopoly.
Whether he has released any new music recently is irrelevant. The Rolling Stones and Paul McCartney release new music, too. But when they play big shows, it's 90% big hits.
However, I read an interview with him and he said he's sick of just playing "the hits." (s I'm sure all classic rock artists of his generation are.) He said that if he were to tour again, he'd try to do the "play a classic album in its entirety" thing to play some rarer stuff. I don't think this residency will allow him to do that. I assume there are going to be tourist prices for these shows and they are going to want to hear the hits.
Brian
See, this is what I don't get about you. When you don't actively attempt to troll, you're actually well-thought out and reasoned in your logic. You have an ability to breakdown a situation intelligently. You've shown all these traits when I've met you. But you keep going back to the trolling. Why? You don't need to do that, B. You don't. You can be a legitimate member on here, you know that from experience. Be another Julian, not another Rhett.
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msg aint no vegas.
But NYC is. I can think of a lot of people I know who would schedule a vacation to NYC just to do this.
You're running with the wrong crowd, for sure.
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brian, always makes more sense, than julian
My Taylor Swift idea is the biggest financial windfall perhaps ever proposed on here. US Spending on Taylor Swift would become one of the five biggest economies IN THE WORLD on its own. You can't poke a hole in an idea that good.
All we need to add to this is an overpriced baked potato bar! Plain potato, $5.00. 3 toppings, $3.00 Unlimited toppings for $10.00!
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brian, always makes more sense, than julian
My Taylor Swift idea is the biggest financial windfall perhaps ever proposed on here. US Spending on Taylor Swift would become one of the five biggest economies IN THE WORLD on its own. You can't poke a hole in an idea that good.
All we need to add to this is an overpriced baked potato bar! Plain potato, $5.00. 3 toppings, $3.00 Unlimited toppings for $10.00!
Too many carbs for our target audience, but you're looking for ways to gouge and I like that. How about rental/purchase of "Tonight I'm Feeling 22" sleeping bags at exorbitant markups? Tears From My Guitar-branded soda at 9.99 for a 32oz. Extra $5 for a collectors cup. A Wonderstruck perfume misting tent at both 35 yard lines. "I'll Do Anything You Ask, If You Ask It With Your Hands" hotdogs for $8. the branding possibilities are INSANE.
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Only opened this topic to see Brian's smartass response. Very disappointed. Maybe the proper meds have finally been prescribed.
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"I'll Do Anything You Ask, If You Ask It With Your Hands" hotdogs for $8. the branding possibilities are INSANE.
"I'll Do Anything You Ask (If You Ask It With Your Hands)" sounds like a great, lost Fall Out Boy song. Pete Wentz has to be kicking himself for not coming up with that one. Of course, it also sounds a little rapey. Not "Blurred Lines" rapey ("What rhymes with hug me?" Drug me.) And yet, Jameis Winston walks free...
Brian
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("What rhymes with hug me?" Drug me.)
The part that most bothered me about that wasn't the message but the sheer laziness of it. Robin Thicke: you're a lyricist. Your job is to write lyrics. You people, along with poets, are the exact people who are supposed to make their livelihood off knowing what rhymes with what. If you start crowdsourcing that, your only job, out, what the hell are we paying you for? It's inane!
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Billy Joel, 4 Others Receive Kennedy Center Honors (http://www.nbcwashington.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/Kennedy-Center-Honors-Billy-Joel-Carlos-Santana-Herbie-Hancock-Martina-Arroyo--234965381.html)
No, that really is the headline.
"...and the rest"
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i understand what you are saying . . . but i understand music too. msg aint no vegas. to pull this off at msg, you better be fucking huge and still fucking relevant beyond everyone else. does billy joel really fall into such a category? i can see elton john being able to do this. billy joel is no icon like elton.
Didn't LCD Soundsystem sell out MSG? I don't think it takes much to sell out that place when you have so many people in the area. I mean people go to 41 Rangers games in a season I am sure there will people who attend multiple Billy Joel shows.
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im sure if mister joel said he was breaking him self up and never performing as billy joel again . . . he too could sell out the msg place held so high to the folks of nyc. other than that, i think after three shows, he will realize this was a big fucking mistake. i predict people will call him a sellout and greedy and has a chip on his shoulder.
perhaps he should just lip synch the whole concert and dance around the stage, like britney. id go see that.
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So from that headline Billy Joel is only living for ten more years?
MSG is going to be demo'd in ten years for a new Penn Station.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/25/nyregion/madison-square-garden-is-told-to-move.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/25/nyregion/madison-square-garden-is-told-to-move.html?_r=0)
They even have futuristic plans that will never happen cuz it's NYC and 9/11 never forget.
http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/05/29/four_plans_for_a_new_penn_station_without_msg_revealed.php (http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/05/29/four_plans_for_a_new_penn_station_without_msg_revealed.php)
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Billy Joel selling his mansion for $50 million