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Sage 703

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Re: Critics Question the Fillmore Plans
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2007, 11:53:00 am »
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  M.I.A.'s agent & manager are intelligent
 
 the vast majority are not
 
 go look at the ticket prices at the Ram's Head...these are the results of bands deciding to play Baltimore because they were offered so much they couldn't say no and, when they looked at the ticket prices on the offer, decided that it didn't matter
What shows do you mean?  I don't notice a huge disparity.  Citizen Cope is cheaper at Rams Head if you buy in advance, and the same on the day of.  Dark Star Orchestra seems comparable.  The others don't really match up - but I guess I don't notice a huge difference in pricing between the 9:30 and Rams Head.

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Re: Critics Question the Fillmore Plans
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2007, 12:50:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
  M.I.A.'s agent & manager are intelligent
 
 the vast majority are not
 
 go look at the ticket prices at the Ram's Head...these are the results of bands deciding to play Baltimore because they were offered so much they couldn't say no and, when they looked at the ticket prices on the offer, decided that it didn't matter
What shows do you mean?  I don't notice a huge disparity.  Citizen Cope is cheaper at Rams Head if you buy in advance, and the same on the day of.  Dark Star Orchestra seems comparable.  The others don't really match up - but I guess I don't notice a huge difference in pricing between the 9:30 and Rams Head. [/b]
Markets have a lot to do with ticket prices. Washington, DC is considered an A market and Baltimore a B market. There's far less competition for shows between Baltimore and DC because many bands will either choose one market or decide to play both. A venue in Silver Spring however, will compete directly with 9:30 for the same shows and it is far more likely to drive up ticket prices.
 
 All that said though, it doesn't matter. For me, as a Maryland resident I'm furious that the elected officials refuse to allow open bidding for the planned venue and have commited $8 million in our tax-payer dollars to subsidize a project for a huge corporate player like Live Nation when other parties (like Seth) are clearly offering to save millions of those proposed tax-payer dollars.

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Re: Critics Question the Fillmore Plans
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2007, 03:59:00 pm »
Rasputina will play Music Hall of Williamsburg for $18.  $20 at 930.  Patti Smith is $25 here but $40 at the Bowery Ballroom.
 
 Some unique acts may benefit from bidding wars that drive up their ticket prices while others benefit simply by having more capacity.  Chromeo is an example of the latter.  There's too many acts like Chromeo that don't come to DC when they do play NYC or LA or whatever because they have the capacity.  It remains to be seen whether Live Nation will expand representation of acts here or blindly compete for every act on the 930 booking list.  My guess is that answer is somewhere in between.
 
 
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Originally posted by callat703:
   
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
  M.I.A.'s agent & manager are intelligent
 
 the vast majority are not
 
 go look at the ticket prices at the Ram's Head...these are the results of bands deciding to play Baltimore because they were offered so much they couldn't say no and, when they looked at the ticket prices on the offer, decided that it didn't matter
What shows do you mean?  I don't notice a huge disparity.  Citizen Cope is cheaper at Rams Head if you buy in advance, and the same on the day of.  Dark Star Orchestra seems comparable.  The others don't really match up - but I guess I don't notice a huge difference in pricing between the 9:30 and Rams Head. [/b]
Markets have a lot to do with ticket prices. Washington, DC is considered an A market and Baltimore a B market. There's far less competition for shows between Baltimore and DC because many bands will either choose one market or decide to play both. A venue in Silver Spring however, will compete directly with 9:30 for the same shows and it is far more likely to drive up ticket prices.
 
 All that said though, it doesn't matter. For me, as a Maryland resident I'm furious that the elected officials refuse to allow open bidding for the planned venue and have commited $8 million in our tax-payer dollars to subsidize a project for a huge corporate player like Live Nation when other parties (like Seth) are clearly offering to save millions of those proposed tax-payer dollars. [/b]

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Re: Critics Question the Fillmore Plans
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2007, 04:12:00 pm »
Could Chromeo even fill up the black cat?
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Re: Critics Question the Fillmore Plans
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2007, 07:27:00 pm »
here's a perfect example:
 
 Ministry wanted too much money, in my opinion...would have necessitated charging more than the $25 we charged last time, which did just okay
 
 Ram's Head gave it to them
 
 Tickets are $30/35

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Re: Critics Question the Fillmore Plans
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2007, 09:21:00 pm »
no doubt for some popular acts, prices will go up.

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Re: Critics Question the Fillmore Plans
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2007, 12:26:00 am »
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
 Ministry wanted too much money, in my opinion...would have necessitated charging more than the $25 we charged last time, which did just okay
 
 Ram's Head gave it to them
 
 Tickets are $30/35
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 just found out that this will supposedly be ministry's farewell tour.   tix for b'more are $30 + fees on TM, other tour dates  here ($53.50 + fees for NYC!).
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Re: Critics Question the Fillmore Plans
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2007, 10:58:00 am »
So what you're saying is that they're getting the extra five bucks  because it's their farewell tour?
 
 On a side note, can I do a 9:30 board farewell tour and collect $5 from each of the 10,000 or so members?
 
 
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
 Ministry wanted too much money, in my opinion...would have necessitated charging more than the $25 we charged last time, which did just okay
 
 Ram's Head gave it to them
 
 Tickets are $30/35
<temporary threadjack alert>
 just found out that this will supposedly be ministry's farewell tour.   tix for b'more are $30 + fees on TM, other tour dates  here ($53.50 + fees for NYC!).
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Re: Critics Question the Fillmore Plans
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2007, 12:24:00 pm »
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  Could Chromeo even fill up the black cat?
they've just added a second night in NYC at the bowery, after having sold out the first.  much bigger market, i know, but just sayin'.  and no, i have no idea who chromeo is/are, just noticed this in a newsletter.
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Re: Critics Question the Fillmore Plans
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2007, 12:34:00 pm »
Panda Bear filled up 2 Bowery shows and barely sold out the ottobar.
 
 
 I think Chromeo would be lucky to fill up the BC.
 
 P.S. You'd probably like Chromeo.
 
 
 Edit2: Had RNRH on the brain. Oops.
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Re: Critics Question the Fillmore Plans
« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2007, 12:41:00 pm »
THIS IS NOT THE "JUST ANNOUNCED" THREAD!!!

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Re: Critics Question the Fillmore Plans
« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2007, 01:13:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
 
 
 On a side note, can I do a 9:30 board farewell tour and collect $5 from each of the 10,000 or so members?
 
 
I'm good for $20.

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Re: Critics Question the Fillmore Plans
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2007, 01:30:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
 On a side note, can I do a 9:30 board farewell tour and collect $5 from each of the 10,000 or so members?
Do we really need another Rhett farewell tour?  You always seem to come back...
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Re: Critics Question the Fillmore Plans
« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2007, 02:39:00 pm »
For a 10K contribution into my daughter's college fund, I will make this my last post ever.
 
 
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
 On a side note, can I do a 9:30 board farewell tour and collect $5 from each of the 10,000 or so members?
Do we really need another Rhett farewell tour?  You always seem to come back... [/b]

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Re: Critics Question the Fillmore Plans
« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2007, 07:48:00 pm »
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