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[markie]

Well you dont reformat when you connect to a mac, I presume you dont reformat when you connect to a PC.
 
 PC owners with newer ipods did you have to reformat your ipod when you got it?

[thirsty moore]

My iPod came with a disc that contained everything I needed.  I'm using a PC.  What that did with my iPod, I'm not sure.  It was the day of Christmas and very late at night.

[ratioci nation]

As far as jogging goes, the ipod has 20 minutes of skip protection, but it should be fine if you have the ipod in a tight pocket or on an armband that holds it in place

[markie]

Is that up to date though as this sounds like an old faq answer as there is only one ipod:
 
 "Note: Using the iPod for Mac on a PC, or using the iPod for Windows on a Mac, is not supported by Apple."

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by Deepak Chopra:
  Is that up to date though as this sounds like an old faq answer as there is only one ipod:
 
 "Note: Using the iPod for Mac on a PC, or using the iPod for Windows on a Mac, is not supported by Apple."

it also says "You can use the iPod Software Updater utility to restore iPod to work with a Mac or a PC "
 
 that was not possible with the old ones, i had to read it several times before I thought they were talking about the new ones
 
 I used my first generation one on a pc before I had a mac, so it has always been possible in some way

[markie]

Originally posted by pollard:
  As far as jogging goes, the ipod has 20 minutes of skip protection, but it should be fine if you have the ipod in a tight pocket or on an armband that holds it in place

My ipod does not have 20 minute of protection....
 
 Mine tends to crash between songs when I use it on shuffle.....
 
 Are songs really preshuffled and stored? I wonder if that is a flaw?

[ratioci nation]

this is about new ones
 
 

Question 9: Can I use iPod while running, or doing other activities? Will my music skip?
 Answer: iPod was designed for people with an active lifestyle. It is compact and lightweight enough to take with you wherever you go. It was designed to fit comfortably in the palm of your hand or to be slipped into a pocket or purse for easy transport. iPod offers up to 20 minutes of skip protection - twice that of other hard drive-based MP3 players on the market - so you can enjoy outdoor athletic activities without missing a beat.
 
 
 Question 10: How does iPod provide skip protection?
 Answer: In addition to the hard drive, iPod has a memory cache. It is made up of solid-state memory, meaning that it has no mechanical or moving parts, so it is not affected by movement of the device. iPod skip protection works by preloading up to 25 minutes of music to the cache at a time. iPod plays music from the memory cache rather than the hard drive, so even rigorous activities won't cause music to skip.
 
 

[markie]

Originally posted by pollard:
  that was not possible with the old ones, i had to read it several times before I thought they were talking about the new ones
 
 

Good point. It is a bit odd.
 
 Besides Bags music is all shite and I am sure her friend will want to quickly remove all traces of Barry Mannilow.

[Bags]

But you see, it's not about the iPod hardware, or formatting it for the first time out of the box, but whether you can use it on a PC AFTER you've used it and loaded it up on a Mac.  I know a couple years ago you had to reformat it completely to switch between a PC and Mac, meaning you lose all the songs.
 
 I'm thinking the thing to do is just give her the new mini in a box and hand her a bunch of DVDs of songs from my iTunes.  
 
 Love the help on these issues -- thanks.

[ggw]

Re: Jogging.
 
 I looked into getting one of these iPod doo-hickeys, but based on the things I read on iPodlounge.com and some other discussion boards, it seems like its a crapshoot whether it works or not while running.
 
 What I gleaned from my research is that the iPod has 20 minutes or so of flash memory.  After that, it goes back to the hard drive to get more music.  Apparently, many people had problems here - described as either "freezing" or "seizing".   Reportedly, it won't play again until you take it home and reset it.
 
 Some argued that the newer models are more prone to this problem, as Apple has tried to make them slimmer, which, I guess means all the moving thingamajigs are cramped in closer quarters.
 
 Whatever the technical reasons for the problems, it was mentioned with sufficient frequency that it wasn't worth it to me to lay out some serious cabbage for something that may not work for the purpose for which I would most like it.
 
 if you go to the Forums at www.ipodlounge.com and search "jogging" you can read some of the discussions.

[ratioci nation]

i think this answers the switching between pc and mac while not losing your music, you cant
 http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61675
 
 and more info on skip protection
 http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93318

[Bags]

Originally posted by Deepak Chopra:
 Besides Bags music is all shite and I am sure her friend will want to quickly remove all traces of Barry Mannilow.

It must say something about you that my music is all shite but I see you at so many shows, my friend.  Or at least I used to.  Then you fell in love with your bike in a new and profound way.
 
 Just a couple Manilow tunes, for those crazy shuffle days when she's driving around the Serengeti.  Hell, I only have the ONE album to take tunes from.    :p

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Re: Jogging.
 
 I looked into getting one of these iPod doo-hickeys, but based on the things I read on iPodlounge.com and some other discussion boards, it seems like its a crapshoot whether it works or not while running.
 
 What I gleaned from my research is that the iPod has 20 minutes or so of flash memory.  After that, it goes back to the hard drive to get more music.  Apparently, many people had problems here - described as either "freezing" or "seizing".   Reportedly, it won't play again until you take it home and reset it.
 
 Some argued that the newer models are more prone to this problem, as Apple has tried to make them slimmer, which, I guess means all the moving thingamajigs are cramped in closer quarters.
 
 Whatever the technical reasons for the problems, it was mentioned with sufficient frequency that it wasn't worth it to me to lay out some serious cabbage for something that may not work for the purpose for which I would most like it.
 
 if you go to the Forums at www.ipodlounge.com and search "jogging" you can read some of the discussions.

I was getting my support links from ipodlounge, the first thing I see there about jogging is
 
 

Every situation is unique......... so as a benchmark, IN GENERAL while jogging, an iPod clipped to your waist will not function past the 25 minute buffer. An iPod held in your hand while jogging will function fine.
 

I am sure there is more argument on both sides

[chaz]

I'd get one of these instead.  
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[ggw]

My 8-tracks won't play on it.
 
 

Originally posted by chaz:
  I'd get one of these instead.  
    <img src="http://www.rpi.edu/dept/sts/pdi/introsts/media/med.k.walkman.gif" alt=" - " />