Dropping Like Flies

[hutch]

I'm saying it here...I'm a lefty liberal and I don't like Hillary
new blood please

could you elaborate please?

"lefty liberal"?? let me guess? you voted for Nader? "lefty liberal" is kind of like saying loser.....

I really don't get it... Hillary is about as liberal as this country is ever going to get, is a woman (when is the US going to have a woman President), and actually has incredible amount of experience (Senator, Secretary of State, White House First Lady)... yet we are told by lefty liberals to considIer Elizabeth Warren who has what? Two years of experience in congress? or Sanders?  I mean I may like Sanders but the idea that the American people are going to vote for a Socialist is beyond ridiculous

Who else is there??? Biden? Come on now....

I thought gender didn't matter.  People who vote based on asinine and irrelevant factors such as gender, race, height, weight, eye color, state of birth, model of car owned, high school sports record, etc are the people who have no business being allowed to vote. 

of course it matters.. when a country where more than half the people are female has never had a female president in over 200 years it matters...it matters a lot....

almost every other industrialized country has had a female head of the executive by now....heck even banana republics like Argentina...places like Chile

and the point is not to elect a woman for the sake of electing a woman.. the point is to avoid NOT electing a woman because she is a woman and in the case of Hillary Clinton it would be hard to avoid any other conclusion if she were to run again and not be elected...

[ggw]

As someone who works - if not on Wall Street - directly with Wall Street, I would welcome Mrs. Clinton's nomination and potential victory.  Like her husband, she will talk a mean progressive populist game, but at the end of the day, she won't forget who butters her bread.

[Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI]

As someone who works - if not on Wall Street - directly with Wall Street, I would welcome Mrs. Clinton's nomination and potential victory.  Like her husband, she will talk a mean progressive populist game, but at the end of the day, she won't forget who butters her bread.

She'll also, you know, get things done, unlike Obama.

[Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI]

and the point is not to elect a woman for the sake of electing a woman.. the point is to avoid NOT electing a woman because she is a woman and in the case of Hillary Clinton it would be hard to avoid any other conclusion if she were to run again and not be elected...

America has a rarely-discussed ugly history of moving African-American men towards full enfranchisement much quicker than it has white women.

Property ownership, the vote, senate-ship, the Presidency, etc...

[azaghal1981]

She would also help weapons manufacturers/dealers' profits soar by continuing the cycle of endless war (she's essentially John McCain when it comes to foreign policy) and as GGW said, be Wall Street's ideal candidate.

I voted for Jill Stein in the last election and will most likely vote for the Green Party candidate in 2016. Sure, they have no chance of winning but their worldview/ideals are closest to mine and that counts for something. We've been conditioned to vote for the lesser of two evils forever.

[Got Haggis?]

I really like Elizabeth Warren, but she said she isn't running

[hutch]

She would also help weapons manufacturers/dealers' profits soar by continuing the cycle of endless war (she's essentially John McCain when it comes to foreign policy) and as GGW said, be Wall Street's ideal candidate.

I voted for Jill Stein in the last election and will most likely vote for the Green Party candidate in 2016. Sure, they have no chance of winning but their worldview/ideals are closest to mine and that counts for something. We've been conditioned to vote for the lesser of two evils forever.

Nobody cares who you vote for... whoever you vote for will get less than 1% of the vote

 you're the classic TYPE who voted for Nader in 2000... how did that work out for you?  you're always carping about the horrible US foreign policy  and yet its your vote that makes that possible...

[hutch]

I really like Elizabeth Warren, but she said she isn't running

Even if one likes her, which I do, I'd hardly say she is qualified to be President.

What in her background makes her qualified?

People will say she has the same experience as President Obama but he had been a state legislator for many years BEFORE becoming Illinois' Senator to the US Congress....

Moreover, to the Warren supporters who I hate to say it but seem not to have given any thought to it other than the "I like her": she did not run a campaign that inspires much confidence in defeating Brown in a very liberal state...

[hutch]

Philadelphia announced as host city for 2016 Democratic National Convention

[Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI]

Philadelphia announced as host city for 2016 Democratic National Convention

I'm installing 10-1 odds on the eventual candidate coming out onto the dais to Philadelphia Freedom by Elton John.

[hutch]

Philadelphia announced as host city for 2016 Democratic National Convention

I'm installing 10-1 odds on the eventual candidate coming out onto the dais to Philadelphia Freedom by Elton John.

what else is there??

[ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl]

spirit of 76 by Ween
Punk Rock Girl by Dead Milkmen
Streets of Philadelphia by Bruce Springsteen
Philadelphia Lawyer by Woody Guthrie, also Flatt & Scruggs, Willie Nelson, Neil Young

ok...none of these would work...

[Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI]

The Bitch Is Back if Hillary gets the nomination.

But seriously anything that baby boomers remember that has a general theme of better days ahead is in play.

[hutch]

TSOP

[grateful]

The Bitch Is Back if Hillary gets the nomination.

But seriously anything that baby boomers remember that has a general theme of better days ahead is in play.

Fleetwood Mac's "Oh Daddy" if Jeb is up.