Fantasy Baseball

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
  not sure it would happen with your setup, but i'd rather just stick to 5 "P" and 2 "RP"

There's no difference between 5 P's and two SP's and 3 Ps for what I was trying to accomplish, which was giving some value to middle relievers.  With 5 SP slots and 2 RP slots as was suggested, you would almost never use a middle releiver (who never starts) because their is no stat for him (unless we add holds).  
 
 In other leagues, we use two SP's, 2 RPs and 3 P's because people got in to the practice of burning up their innings before the trade deadline, then trade their quality SP's for hitters.  Then they would use their last 150 innings with all closers/setup men.  To quell this practice, we required that two of those spots be SP's so that they couldn't have 7 closers/set-up guys.  But you're right, with the SP/RP of a lot of pitchers, it wasn't as effective as we had hoped.
 
 And for the record, the burning up innings approach has never produced a winner in our league, but giving somebody a #1 or #2 starter for hitters at the deadline has aided more than a few teams to victory. [/b]

ok, as i see it there isn't much of a difference between your suggestion:
 
 SP
 SP
 P
 P
 P
 RP
 RP
 
 and mine:
 
 P
 P
 P
 P
 P
 RP
 RP
 
 right? i'm kind of tired today, not completely following you...

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
   

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
  not sure it would happen with your setup, but i'd rather just stick to 5 "P" and 2 "RP"

There's no difference between 5 P's and two SP's and 3 Ps for what I was trying to accomplish, which was giving some value to middle relievers.  With 5 SP slots and 2 RP slots as was suggested, you would almost never use a middle releiver (who never starts) because their is no stat for him (unless we add holds).  
 
 In other leagues, we use two SP's, 2 RPs and 3 P's because people got in to the practice of burning up their innings before the trade deadline, then trade their quality SP's for hitters.  Then they would use their last 150 innings with all closers/setup men.  To quell this practice, we required that two of those spots be SP's so that they couldn't have 7 closers/set-up guys.  But you're right, with the SP/RP of a lot of pitchers, it wasn't as effective as we had hoped.
 
 And for the record, the burning up innings approach has never produced a winner in our league, but giving somebody a #1 or #2 starter for hitters at the deadline has aided more than a few teams to victory. [/b]

ok, as i see it there isn't much of a difference between your suggestion:
 
 SP
 SP
 P
 P
 P
 RP
 RP
 
 and mine:
 
 P
 P
 P
 P
 P
 RP
 RP
 
 right? i'm kind of tired today, not completely following you... [/b]

well, if i understand this all correctly, by simply making them P, you could have a staff full of middle relievers and closers. . .whereas with SP's, you have to have starters.

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  well, if i understand this all correctly, by simply making them P, you could have a staff full of middle relievers and closers. . .whereas with SP's, you have to have starters.

ok, that makes sense ... thanks for clearing it up ... i'm fine with switching to smackie's idea ...
 
 i spent all fucking day today working in excel on the fantasy points baseball stuff for my other league ... i'm very close to the perfect system, i should have it down pat by tomorrow ...

[HoyaSaxa03]

this is the email i sent out to my friends, anyone on here is more than welcome to join the league if you're interested ....
 
 ----------------------------------------
 Hey everybody,
 
 I'm running another Fantasy Baseball league this year, and I'm making some changes.  Instead of doing a traditional roto-style league (get ranked 1-10 in every category) or a head-to-head league, I'm going to run a "Fantasy Points" league. Basically, this is similar to Fantasy Football, your player gets (or loses) points for everything that he does.  Adie and I spent some time working out all the kinks in the system, and I think we came up with a pretty good one.
 
 For all of you who are afraid of the new system and are a bit wary of signing up, don't be.  I have an Excel spreadsheet that I can send along to you to show you how all the players are ranked (based on their stats from last year, of course) within the scoring system.  It works out to be very close to how players would be ranked if you pick up a FB magazine or draft kit online.  Only minor difference is that usually hitters are valued much more than pitchers, the system we've
 come up with evens that out, so out of the top 19 players, 8 are pitchers.  Also, holds are counted, so set-up men like Tom Gordon have more value.
 
 I'll send you the spreadsheet if you're interested.
 
 Only issue is that the draft will be next Thursday, March 10 at 7:15pm EST.  I know, it's short notice and it's a long ways away from Opening Day, but it's the best I could do with Yahoo, the times filled up real quickly this year.  We don't want to have a draft at like 1pm on a
 Wednesday, and that's our only other option after this.  It should work fine though.
 
 Buy-in will be $25:  1st place gets 50%, 2nd gets 30%, 3rd gets 20%
 
 http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/register/joinprivateleague
 League ID:  92473
 Password:  rfkrules
 
 Here's the nitty-gritty details. Trust me, I've played around with it a lot, and it all works out.  Email me with any questions or to get the spreadsheet.
 
 Max Teams:      14
 Scoring Type:   Points Only
 Player Universe:        All baseball
 Max Moves:      No maximum
 Max Trades:     No maximum
 Trade Reject Time:      0
 Trade End Date:         August 28, 2005
 Waiver Time:    2 days
 Can't Cut List Provider:        Yahoo! Sports
 Trade Review:   Commissioner
 Post Draft Players:     Follow Waiver Rules
 Max Games Played:       162
 Max Innings Pitched:    1250
 Weekly Deadline:        Daily - Tomorrow
 Start Scoring on:       Sunday, Apr 3
 Roster Positions:       C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, OF, Util, Util, RP, RP, P, P, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL
 Stat Categories / Modifiers:
 R (5)
 1B (5)
 2B (10)
 3B (15)
 HR (20)
 RBI (5)
 SH (2)
 SF (2)
 SB (5)
 CS (-3)
 BB (3)
 HBP (3)
 
 W (40)
 L (-10)
 SV (80)
 SVOP (-40)
 HLD (40)
 OUT (4)
 H (-1)
 ER (-5)
 BB (-1)
 HBP (-1)
 K (2)
 WP (-1)
 BLK (-1)

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by freddyadu:
  Shouldn't we do it closer to opening day?  That way we will know about any position battles or rotation changes.

xxx URGENT xxx
 
 many new draft days / times have recently opened up on yahoo, we could move the draft to the week of March 27 - April 2, almost all good times are available for this week. Opening Day is April 3.
 
 We will have a better knowledge of injuries, position battles, etc.  The only reason I had initially scheduled the draft for this early is because these dates were not available when i first set the draft time.
 
 If i hear back from enough of you, i'll switch it to Tuesday March 29, at 8pm EST ... mainly because Tuesdays are usually a good day, 8pm usually a good time
 
 Let me know what you think.

[BookerT]

that is so much better. so much better.

[Venerable Bede]

agreed.  it also won't interfere as much with my ncaa bracket(s) planning.  

[ratioci nation]

thats fine

[Guiny]

I'm flying to Maine for my fantasy draft from the 25th til the 27th so definetely can't do it on those nights. I'm going to a concert on April 1st. Otherwise, as of now, any other night is fine.

[ggw]

'fess up --- you're going to see LA Guns at Jaxx.
 
 

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  I'm going to a concert on April 1st.

[HoyaSaxa03]

OK, that's five people (including me) saying Tuesday March 29, at 8pm EST is good ... if we get two more i'll change it ...

[HoyaSaxa03]

OK, I've heard from half the league, thanks for all your quick responses ... the new draft time is:
 
 Tuesday March 29 at 6:45pm EST
 
 I had initially thought that 8pm was available, but I guess I was confused by yahoo's liberal mixing of PST and EST.
 
 Hope it works for everyone, sorry for the last minute change, it'll be for the best.

[vansmack]

Let me just run that past my boss and see if I can get the afternoon off to do a fantasy baseball draft.

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by vansmack:
  Let me just run that past my boss and see if I can get the afternoon off to do a fantasy baseball draft.

i'm sure he'll be fine with it =)
 
 can't you just say you have a conference call or something?
 
 weren't you going to have to take the afternoon off anyway for tomorrow's draft?

[vansmack]

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
  i'm sure he'll be fine with it =)

I'm sure she'll be fine with it.
 
 

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
  weren't you going to have to take the afternoon off anyway for tomorrow's draft?

I work for the State.  I would be off the clock for a draft at 5.  I'm not sure for 3:45, but I'm sure it will be fine.  It's on my calender early enough anyway and it's Spring Break for the students, so distractions should be at a minimum.  Unfortunately the mayors office, the State capital and the Nations capital don't celebrate spring break.