Fantasy Baseball

[ratioci nation]

Cabrera's deal averages out to 8 mil per
 
 Cards overpaid for Eckstein because they signed him for 3 years and could have had him for less
 
 one of the few times Jocketty has jumped the gun, i guess because he was left without Renteria and Cabrera got way more than was expected

[vansmack]

But the SS position is evolving in baseball.  The more power they display and still flash the glove around, the more their going to make.  Blame Jeter and A-Rod (and Tejada now), but wait until Crosby and Kahlil Greene's 6 years are up - then OC for $8 Mil won't be that bad.

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by vansmack:
  But the SS position is evolving in baseball.  The more power they display and still flash the glove around, the more their going to make.  Blame Jeter and A-Rod (and Tejada now), but wait until Crosby and Kahlil Greene's 6 years are up - then OC for $8 Mil won't be that bad.

I guess I just dont expect the Angels to give out contracts like that, Yankees and Red Sox yes, they are run by morons.  I guess the Angels have been big free agent players in recent years, I just dont like these deals that lead to players who dont deserve near that much money getting it because that is where the market is at.  A year and a half ago NOBODY would have said Orlando Cabrera was worth 8 mil.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by pollardteam2:
  I guess I just dont expect the Angels to give out contracts like that

Oh, we're big market now, bro - didn't you get the memo?  We have a new name and everything.
 
 Seriously, you're right.  I have lost a little perspective since the Vlad signing.  It didn't take me long to get used to having an owner spend money like this, I guess.  But boy, it's nice to watch him play in the field after 10 years of Eckstein and DiSarcina.  Hell, we gave DiSarcina $3.2 Mil to play 12 games for us in 2000.

[HoyaSaxa03]

eckstein is most certainly worth 2mil+/yr ... as you angels fans know, he's a sparkplug and a big + for team chemistry
 
 guzman on the other hand ... i could think of much better ways to spend 4mil for a "small market" team ...

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
  eckstein is most certainly worth 2mil+/yr ... as you angels fans know, he's a sparkplug and a big + for team chemistry ...

I don't mind him too much, I am much happier with Mulder and Eckstein than just having Renteria.  They would not have made the mulder trade if they had signed a more expensive shortstop, just think they could have save a little there and somewhere else, and maybe tried to keep Steve Kline, Renteria kind of screwed everything up

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by vansmack:
  Oh, we're big market now, bro - didn't you get the memo?  We have a new name and everything.
 
 Seriously, you're right.  I have lost a little perspective since the Vlad signing.  It didn't take me long to get used to having an owner spend money like this, I guess.  But boy, it's nice to watch him play in the field after 10 years of Eckstein and DiSarcina.  Hell, we gave DiSarcina $3.2 Mil to play 12 games for us in 2000.

I had forgot DiSarcina, wow was he bad, one of the worst video game hitters ever

[vansmack]

Originally posted by pollardteam2:
  I had forgot DiSarcina, wow was he bad, one of the worst video game hitters ever

He wasn't so good in real life either.  I think he hit .300 once - a career .260 hitter.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by BookerT:
  even though octavio dotel was the only closer i drafted.

i hope you had him benched this week.  

[ratioci nation]

Speaking of shortstops, I thought this was interesting, won't last of course
 
 

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Orlando Cabrera 8mil/Yr LA Angels:
 Avg    HR RBI Runs SB
 .230   3  10  11   2
 
 Edgar Respecteria 10mil/Yr BoSox:
 Avg    HR RBI Runs SB
 .246   2  10  16   2
 
 David Eckstein 3.5mil/Yr Cardinals
 Avg    HR RBI Runs SB
 .320   0  10  16   2

[sonickteam2]

heres what i think is interesting
 
 
 Johnny Damon
 
 Avg   R   RBI   SB
 
 .383  26   20    4

[vansmack]

Originally posted by sonickteam3:
 
 Johnny Damon
 
 Avg   R   RBI   SB
 
 .383  26   20    4

You forgot a slugging % of .511.  That means lots of singles and few HRs.  Of his 54 hits, 40 have been singles.  Might as well have David Eckstein at $2.3 Mil rather than Damon at $8.25 Mil.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by pollardteam2:
  Speaking of shortstops, I thought this was interesting, won't last of course
 
 

Offensively, Cabrera has been gawd awful. But we're paying Figgins $390K to do what Eck used to do for $2Mil, and I think we're making out better in the deal.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by sonickteam3:
 
 Johnny Damon
 
 Avg   R   RBI   SB
 
 .383  26   20    4

You forgot a slugging % of .511.  That means lots of singles and few HRs.  Of his 54 hits, 40 have been singles.  Might as well have David Eckstein at $2.3 Mil rather than Damon at $8.25 Mil. [/b]

why? Ecksteins slugging is .377, and what does Damon need a .600+ SLG when he bats in front of Ramirez, Ortiz and Varitek  who have a combined 24 home runs this year already.
 
  you really want Eckstein playing centerfield?  

[vansmack]

Originally posted by sonickteam3:
  why?  

Economics.  He's a table setter for Varitek, Ortiz and Ramirez?  Which outfielder do you want setting the table for your big guys?
 
 Johnny Damon: $8.25 Mil
 Carl Crawford: $625K
 Juan Pierre: $3.7 Mil
 Chone Figgins: $390K
 
 Table setters don't make $8.25 Million.  He's paid to be more than that.