Author Topic: Scissor Sisters roll call  (Read 30671 times)

sonickteam2

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Re: Scissor Sisters roll call
« Reply #105 on: September 08, 2004, 10:48:00 am »
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  Not true. Take a look at the current 9:30 Club schedule. Old 97's, Drive By Truckers, Mindy Smith, the Cramps (if you stretch the definition of Americana), and an as yet unannounced show by Del McCoury Band with Donna the Buffalo are all on the schedule.
 
but a quick look at the show list now,
 
 WOXY band shows like...
  Siouxsie, Snow Patrol, The Killers, The Black Keys, Libertines, Walkmen, Sam Roberts, Flogging Molly, Keane, French Kicks, Ambulance, Supergrass, Hope of the States, Coheed and Cambria, Radio 4, Minstry, Helmet and Blonde Redhead (with unannounced Death Cab, Muse, PJ Harvey, Deftones, and Interpol shows) significantly outnumber the 4 or 5 Americana bands you have listed. 2 of which being bands WOXY plays anyway (old 97s and DBT)
 
 and the Cramps, I dont call Americana.

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Re: Scissor Sisters roll call
« Reply #106 on: September 08, 2004, 10:48:00 am »
Perhaps you could go someplace else where the bands discussed were more to your liking?
 
 I don't think you would be missed much.
 
 
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 But of course the only ones of those that get mentioned with any kind of regularity on this board are the ones who are also played on WOXY...Wilco and maybe the Drive By Truckers.
 

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Re: Scissor Sisters roll call
« Reply #107 on: September 08, 2004, 10:50:00 am »
I'm not trying to be difficult, but you're still missing me.  Michael Jackson has sold millions upon millions of albums, and just about everyone in the world has heard of him.  And if you head to the mall and ask random people who they've heard of, Creed (a band we can all agree has sold a lot of albums but blows) or the Clash (a band we can agree hasn't sold as many records but doesn't blow), I think the answer would easily be Creed.
 
 
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  How do you figure that one?
 
   
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  Sales have nothing to do with...how many people have heard of them for that matter
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ok, i should've stated that sales are not a "direct indication" of how many people have heard of them. [/b]

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Re: Scissor Sisters roll call
« Reply #108 on: September 08, 2004, 10:53:00 am »
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  I'm not trying to be difficult, but you're still missing me.
i understand, but i dont think thats true with every band. more often than not, i will give you.  :)

Re: Scissor Sisters roll call
« Reply #109 on: September 08, 2004, 10:56:00 am »
I don't think you would be missed much either if you departed. I don't think any one board member would really be missed that much.
 
 If I were to find a good locally based music board that was more to my liking, I would certainly consider going there.
 
 As it is, my goal is to stay here and corrupt the masses into expanding their musical palates. And occasionally expanding my own with bands I never would have considered listening to (e.g. The Libertines, the High Strung, etc.)
 
 
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  Perhaps you could go someplace else where the bands discussed were more to your liking?
 
 I don't think you would be missed much.
 
   
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 But of course the only ones of those that get mentioned with any kind of regularity on this board are the ones who are also played on WOXY...Wilco and maybe the Drive By Truckers.
 
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Re: Scissor Sisters roll call
« Reply #110 on: September 08, 2004, 10:57:00 am »
guess what we need since we already have the Thom York wing on the forum, is a Rhett Miller wing.  along with a Rivers Cuomo and Kurt Cobain wings.
 
 Surely among the other 7000 people registered here there were people willing discuss the latest Americana bands.
 
 I'm also sure we could turn the forum into discussion site for HFS and DC101 bands if thats more to your liking....
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Re: Scissor Sisters roll call
« Reply #111 on: September 08, 2004, 10:59:00 am »
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  guess what we need since we already have the Thom York wing on the forum
however, i would get totally bored of just talking about Radiohead and thier brilliant music.

Re: Scissor Sisters roll call
« Reply #112 on: September 08, 2004, 11:01:00 am »
This description from allmusic certainly lends to putting the Cramps into the Americana category. To me, their sound is derived from rockabilly, and you can't get much more Americana than that.
 
 Conjuring a fiendish witches' brew of primal rockabilly, grease-stained '60s garage rock, vintage monster movies, perverse and glistening sex, and the detritus and effluvia of 50 years of American pop culture, the Cramps are a truly American creation much in the manner of the Cadillac, the White Castle hamburger, the Fender Stratocaster, and Jayne Mansfield.
 
 
 
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 and the Cramps, I dont call Americana.

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Re: Scissor Sisters roll call
« Reply #113 on: September 08, 2004, 11:03:00 am »
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 [QB] I don't think you would be missed much either if you departed. I don't think any one board member would really be missed that much.
 
 If I were to find a good locally based music board that was more to my liking, I would certainly consider going there.
 
 As it is, my goal is to stay here and corrupt the masses into expanding their musical palates. And occasionally expanding my own with bands I never would have considered listening to (e.g. The Libertines, the High Strung, etc.)
 
 
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 I miss Mankie Bollocks.
 
 I am sure the board would be much less interesting without Rhett or GGW. Rhett adds a great deal to the disharmony, but also supplies a bit of diversity.

sonickteam2

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Re: Scissor Sisters roll call
« Reply #114 on: September 08, 2004, 11:04:00 am »
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  This description from allmusic certainly lends to putting the Cramps into the Americana category. To me, their sound is derived from rockabilly, and you can't get much more Americana than that.
 
 Conjuring a fiendish witches' brew of primal rockabilly, grease-stained '60s garage rock, vintage monster movies, perverse and glistening sex, and the detritus and effluvia of 50 years of American pop culture, the Cramps are a truly American creation much in the manner of the Cadillac, the White Castle hamburger, the Fender Stratocaster, and Jayne Mansfield.
 
 
is CCR Americana then? and how about Counting Crows?  just wondering....i thought the Cramps were a little more garage sounding though.  Maybe its all the same...Kosmo can probably tell us.

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Re: Scissor Sisters roll call
« Reply #115 on: September 08, 2004, 11:08:00 am »
haven't listened to a whole of the cramps, so count me out...
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Re: Scissor Sisters roll call
« Reply #116 on: September 08, 2004, 11:12:00 am »
I would say CCR were definitely Americana, though it wasn't called that at the time. Same goes for Tom Petty, Neil Young, Gram Parsons, and the Byrds.
 
 Counting Crows might best be referred to as watered down pop Americana. Sort of like calling Coldplay "Britpop".
 
 
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  This description from allmusic certainly lends to putting the Cramps into the Americana category. To me, their sound is derived from rockabilly, and you can't get much more Americana than that.
 
 Conjuring a fiendish witches' brew of primal rockabilly, grease-stained '60s garage rock, vintage monster movies, perverse and glistening sex, and the detritus and effluvia of 50 years of American pop culture, the Cramps are a truly American creation much in the manner of the Cadillac, the White Castle hamburger, the Fender Stratocaster, and Jayne Mansfield.
 
 
is CCR Americana then? and how about Counting Crows?  just wondering....i thought the Cramps were a little more garage sounding though.  Maybe its all the same...Kosmo can probably tell us. [/b]

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Re: Scissor Sisters roll call
« Reply #117 on: September 08, 2004, 11:14:00 am »
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  corrupt the masses into expanding their musical palates.
   
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Perhaps you could go someplace else where the bands discussed were more to your liking?
 
 I don't think you would be missed much.
 
   
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 But of course the only ones of those that get mentioned with any kind of regularity on this board are the ones who are also played on WOXY...Wilco and maybe the Drive By Truckers.
 
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Focusing on the word "expanding" vice "corrupt" -- How so? I heard a lot about Old 97's via your posts, so I did check them out to see what all the hoopla is about. Other than that I haven't read about other bands through your posts and anything else brought up you seem to discount or squash with your opinion.

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Re: Scissor Sisters roll call
« Reply #118 on: September 08, 2004, 11:15:00 am »
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I would say CCR were definitely Americana, though it wasn't called that at the time. Same goes for Tom Petty, Neil Young, Gram Parsons, and the Byrds.
 
 Counting Crows might best be referred to as watered down pop Americana. Sort of like calling Coldplay "Britpop".
 
good comparison.  
 
  I love CCR. and i love the counting crows. at least i used to..not sure about anything past 1999.

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Re: Scissor Sisters roll call
« Reply #119 on: September 08, 2004, 11:16:00 am »
Perhaps not.  
 
 But considering you spend more of your time slagging the musical tastes of others than promoting your own tastes, you would probably be better off elsewhere.
 
 Except, it's pretty obvious that you enjoy trolling, as it probably gives an illusion of value to your otherwise sorry life.
 
 
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I don't think you would be missed much either if you departed. I don't think any one board member would really be missed that much.