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chaz

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Re: Those ribbons
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2004, 10:52:00 am »
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  And I'm sick of all the fucking Kerry/Edwards and Bush/Cheney stickers on cars. Enough of that shit already.
Yeah and when will the cardboard re-election signs be taken off all the street lamps in DC? [/b]
My favorite is "Move Ahead with Movaheadi!"

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Re: Those ribbons
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2004, 11:02:00 am »
For a slightly serious slant on all of this, there was an excellent editorial in the Washington Post on Sunday by frank Schaeffer.
 
 
 Caring For Those Left Behind
 Soldiers' Survivors Need Real Benefits More Than Yellow Ribbons
 
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61375-2004Nov18.html

Samantha

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Re: Those ribbons
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2004, 11:23:00 am »
no ribbons for lung cancer?  I guess they haven't thought of EVERYTHING
 
 you know, it's good to raise awareness, but most people don't know what the ribbons stand for, so the ribbons don't work...

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Re: Those ribbons
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2004, 11:26:00 am »
more than 90% of lung cancers ares self inflicted......
 
 I know Dupek wears this to show he supports all the different charities:  <img src="http://www.prideglv.org/assets/images/rainbowribbon/ribbonlogo.jpg" alt=" - " />

Samantha

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Re: Those ribbons
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2004, 11:53:00 am »
More than 50% of newly diagnosed patients with lung cancer each year are former or non-smokers.  (note: the other half never smoked)
 
 Despite claiming more lives than any other cancer, lung cancer receives comparatively little research funding
 
 More Americans die each year from lung cancer than from breast, prostate, and colorectal cancers combined.
 
 Similar to AIDS in the early 1980s, lung cancer patients report feeling ashamed to tell their family, friends, and others that they have been diagnosed with lung cancer because they feel that they will be blamed.
 
 www.lungcancer.org
 
 So what about the children who grow up with smoking parents and develop lung cancer later in life?  Is that self-inflicted, and do they not deserve people to stand behind them and further the research to cure them?  Oh I guess not...since most people who get it are smokers, then we should just let them die because they did it to themselves.  How about people who smoked before and realized how stupid it was and quit?  But I guess we should expect everyone not to make mistakes, right?  How about those who go to concert venues regularly and breathe in tons of second hand smoke?  But I guess they deserve to get lung cancer, if they risked it to go to the show.

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Re: Those ribbons
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2004, 11:55:00 am »
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Originally posted by chaz:
  My favorite is "Move Ahead with Movaheadi!"
Bahaha! I work in Dupont Circle, so I see those signs a lot.

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Re: Those ribbons
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2004, 12:48:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Samantha:
  More than 50% of newly diagnosed patients with lung cancer each year are former or non-smokers.  (note: the other half never smoked)
 
 
Where do you get that from?
 
 As I understand it at least 90% of lung cancer deaths are smoking related.
 
 But I am happy to be proved wrong.
 
 
 Also as I uderstood it, if you dont smoke for five years, your chances of getting smoking related cancer are the same as a non-smoker, making the child parent second hand smoke thing moot.

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« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2004, 05:49:00 pm »
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  What color ribbon is prostate cancer?  Is there a ribbon for herpes, as well?
i think the brown one is for colon cancer.

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« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2004, 10:04:00 pm »
This fits how I feel about all of these dumbass ribbons.
 
  <img src="http://www.ribbonomatic.com/matic/graphics/90823.gif" alt=" - " />

Samantha

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Re: Those ribbons
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2004, 11:43:00 pm »
I posted the link I referenced from, www.lungcancer.org
 
 second hand smoke is supposedly worse than first hand, and if a child grows up 18 years in a house with second hand smoke...that ain't good.  For my best friend as an example: he's never had a cigarrette in his life, but both parents smoked, and so did a live-in girlfriend for years.  He was diagnosed with lung cancer last winter, and he is only 31 years old.

markie

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Re: Those ribbons
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2004, 12:00:00 am »
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  he is only 31 years old.
That really sucks. I am sorry.
 
 I still couldnt find your stats though, all I find is stuff like this:
 
 http://www.lungcancer.org/health_care/fs_hcp_flc.htm

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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2004, 04:28:00 am »
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
  This fits how I feel about all of these dumbass ribbons.
 
   <img src="http://www.ribbonomatic.com/matic/graphics/90823.gif" alt=" - " />
ditto!

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Re: Those ribbons
« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2004, 08:51:00 am »
this to shall pass like all those xxx on board signs, americans are such sheep
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Re: Those ribbons
« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2004, 11:22:00 am »

markie

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Re: Those ribbons
« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2004, 11:27:00 am »
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Originally posted by Samantha:
  http://www.lungcancer.org/patients/fs_pc_lc_101.htm
Ok, sorry about this, but from your link:
 
 "More than 87% of lung cancers are smoking related"
 
 This does not fit well with your earlier statistics..... Whether you like it or not most lung cancer is self-inflicted and as such I guess it is pretty hard to raise sympathy/charitable money for it.