â??I could probably outdo The White Stripes with a guitar

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Amen to that.
 
 

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by The Jesus Nut:
 Townshend will have his chance to show up the Whites this summer,

A chance to "show up"?
 
 I think the White Stripes need to show they belong on the same stage as The Who before Pete even has to worry about showing the White Stripes up. [/b]

[joliver0001]

"And there is nothing wrong with breaking in UK first, there are US bands whose greatest popularity is overseas..."
 
 No, there isn't....however, I think the whole strategy of breaking the White Stripes first in the UK was planned to take maximum advantage of the Jack/Meg White mystery (Are they brother & sister, husband & wife, original & clone?, etc., etc., etc.), which they played up to the hilt - in the land where sleazy tabloids outnumber legit newspapers by about a 10-to-1 margin. (Anybody remember the UK press singlehandedly killing off Jerry Lee Lewis' career when they discovered he married his 12 or 13 year old cousin?)
 
 It was fucking brilliant strategy, and had absolutely nothing to do with their music to boot!  Prior to their first UK tour, they were lucky if their first CD was even available at Tower Records. (I first saw it at Reptilian in Baltimore, where Chris showed me it and said -"this is something that might be up your alley - very primitive punk blues from Detroit"). From that beginning to now being challenged by Pete Townshend.....great work if you can get it!!!

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Sorry, I wasn't alive in 1957.
 
 

Originally posted by JohnO:
   (Anybody remember the UK press singlehandedly killing off Jerry Lee Lewis' career when they discovered he married his 12 or 13 year old cousin?)
 
 

[yinzer]

word.  
 
 and yeah, people will be talking about jack white in 30 years time.  for the record, when the hell did the who and/or pete townsend make anything worth talking about?  who was president at the time?  please don't talk to me about any of this solo townsend tripe.  maybe the cut he did with vedder.  maybe.
 
 

The White Stripes would embarass "The Who" circa 2006 mano a mano. Period. Daltrey and Townsend?? They've got the songs, but they're washed up. W/out Moon and Entwhistle, the power and electricity isn't there. Townsend calling out Jack White is like the washed up boxer who knows he's lost it . . . like post-jail Mike Tyson . . . showing bravado almost as a defense mechansim, or requiem, for and energy that once existed, and is gone.  

[yinzer]

excuse me, when was the last time they made anything worth talking about?

So who are the best new guitarists...in terms of shred-ability?

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

I was thinking...since when does shred-ability define who is a talented guitarist?
 
 

Originally posted by The Jesus Nut:
  So who are the best new guitarists...in terms of shred-ability?

[ggw]

Yngwie Fucking Malmsteen

[Sage 703]

Originally posted by you be betty:
  No one really said they were original.  They obviously draw influences from a ton of people, and it shows.  They also have their own thing going for them.  And the fact of the matter is, whether you like the music or not (or rather, whether you're old and losing it or not), Jack White is an extremely talented guitarist.  I will go very far to defend him.  Boy can shred.

I don't think being an extremely talented guitarist really means all that much; go into any Guitar Center and you'll find plenty of "boys that can shred."  The question is the songs that you can write with that ability, and I think that the original point made is the most valid - White seems to have half a mind toward his pop culture persona, and half towards his music.  I'd actually contend that the Raconteurs record is the banner example of that fact, contrary to what somebody said previously that it was a shining achievement.  I see it more as a demonstration of White's limitations, and the failure to successfully work with another songwriter to craft a cohesive album.  Certain songs worked majestically.  Others...not.
 
 Granted, White's work on the Loretta Lynn record was quite brilliant.  But I still want to hear him do more with his guitar than make it sound like an organ and sing blues riffs on top of it.
 
 Plus, can we remember that "Get Behind Me Satan" is probably easily the White Stripes worst record - notably, also the first one to come out when White was a pseudo-celebrity?

[Sage 703]

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Yngwie Fucking Malmsteen

or these guys:
 
   <img src="http://billtmiller.com/branca/glenngrinz.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 
   <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/nl/thumb/3/33/Ma1.jpg/141px-Ma1.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 
    <img src="http://www.thegodetroit.com/uploaded_images/guitarist-784312.jpg" alt=" - " />

[ggw]

Or Rick Nielsen
 
  <img src="http://www.pbgadget.com/images/europe/ams-rn5~c.jpg" alt=" - " />

I'd hardly call Nielsen or Malmsteen NEW.

[kosmo vinyl]

I remember first hearing about the White Stripes while back in Detroit in 2001 because of a big New Years Eve gig that they were involved with.  A couple months later they landed at the Black Cat and I was immediately struck by the Led Zep comparison, which I didn't hold against them as it was a killer show and great records.  Wasn't really following their career per say but was surprised by the "sudden" success of White Blood Cells.
 
 At the Ottobar there is a poster for the White Stripes gig at the old Ottobar which indicates how far they have come, that and friends in Detroit miss the days of when they played The Stink.
 
 I'm a bit embarrassed to say that I may have talked to Jack when he was still in The Go which was the same time when The White Stripes were just starting.  It wasn't til years later that I realized he was actually in The Go didn't make that connection right away.  If it was Jack. as there were two guitarists in The Go and the memory is a bit fuzzy, he was an incredibly normal humble guy...

[ggw]

Originally posted by The Jesus Nut:
  So who are the best new guitarists...in terms of shred-ability?

Shredding is out.  It's seen as too boorish and manly in this new age of Death Cab For Cutie asexual wussy-rock.

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
 Shredding is out.  It's seen as too boorish and manly in this new age of Death Cab For Cutie asexual wussy-rock.

no offense, but when has pure shred-ability been a crucial factor for an indie guitarist (ie, how is that any different now)?
 
 it seems like "alternative" guitar music has always been the "alternative" to shredders and ultimate instrument proficiency ... punk rock was a reaction to bloated prog guitars, and all the big shredders of the 80s (dudes like satriani) weren't exactly embraced by indie rock