Mark your calendars / Arcade Fire

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Did you smoke at your granny's funeral?
 
 

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   

Originally posted by Celeste:
 then learn to quit. smoking is a vile habit. it is totally offensive to me that I have to endure the smoke fumes of losers who care nothing at all about their health just to see a show I like.

we only smoke to piss you off, celeste. and we hope that if you keep coming around, then you will die a long miserable painful death and we'll be at your funeral smoking a parlaiment saying "man, i thought smoking was only bad for us"
    then we'll go eat a juicy steak     yummmmm [/b]

[xcanuck]

Wow...all this debate about smoking.
 
 The Arcade Fire requests that all their shows be non-smoking. I believe that Win has a severe allergy to smoke and it really screws up his singing if there's smoking in the venue.
 
 Now...having said that, what a fucking show! They pulled out all the stops on Sunday night. It didn't hurt that Win's parents were in town and that Will had flown in for the show (along with Philly and Conan). I think it really pumped them up for the evening.
 
 I really get off on the energy they exhibit on stage. I wonder how long they can keep it up. For some reason, I can't help but think they'll get snakebit with their sophomore effort and back off a bit.
 
 BTW - Went to the Philly show last night and it wasn't quite as good as DC (but still damn fine). They did have a harp player for Backseat and their set was one song shorter. I have a feeling that they'll be playing Backseat on Conan tonite. That wouldn't be my choice to showcase their talents, especially given that they'll only get about 3 minutes. We'll have to see how that transpires.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Did you smoke at your granny's funeral?
 

no, i only smoke when i go out to bars and shows.
 
   i dont really smoke. i just wanna piss you whiny shits off!!!!  i dont wanna make my car and apt stink and stuff. jeez.

[Joymonster]

Originally posted by snailhook:
  this isn't to say that i thought the arcade fire were bad; i enjoyed their set but had trouble fathoming why so many think this band is doing something interesting and moving. i wasn't moved at all, except during one song.
 

I wasn't really impressed with what I heard or saw from them.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Actually, alcohol sales in bars have increased in Montgomery County since the smoking ban went into place.

That might just be because more people who don't smoke are going out in Montgomery County because they know they won't have to deal with smoke.  There's not necessarily a corelation between the amount of alcohol consumed and smoking unless you break it down per person.  My thoughts in the two times I've been back since the ban is that there's more traffic, which would naturally equal more consumption.
 
 That being said, I'm still all for the ban.

[sonickteam2]

and you're also talking about one of the richest counties in the country.
 
    tell the lower-middle class folks of Baltimore you cant smoke and the already dreary nightlife of Baltimore may come to a stand still.
 
    i dont care if they ban it personally, i am looking for a reason to stop spending $50+ at the bar every weekend!

[vansmack]

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
  and you're also talking about one of the richest counties in the country.
 
    tell the lower-middle class folks of Baltimore you cant smoke and the already dreary nightlife of Baltimore may come to a stand still.
 
 

Those arguments don't work anymore.  It's been ten years in a state as large as California, with neighborhoods of all makes and models, and you rarely hear of anyone who complains about the ban any longer - in any neighborhood, rich or poor.  Businesses have loved it - by far they've reaped rewards they never imagined.  As was pointed out earlier, alcohol sales took no hit (even increased) and smoking is allowed outside in a designated smoking area.  They still sell their packs at outrageous prices and more people are in the bar - who loses?

[sonickteam2]

but you wonder how many businesses may have folded and then new ones sprouted  up during that time.
 
   think of some bars, if they had bad sales for the initial 6 months of the ban...that could be enough to send them out of business.
 
 really , i dont care and i certainly dont wanna argue with vansmack cause hes a nice guy, haha.
 
   either way, ever since bans have been going on, whenever i am in a bar that is no smoking, by 12:30am its almost always smoking anyway (this is NYC, Phoenix and San Diego only though)

[sonickteam2]

on another note, i remember being home when the Toronto smoking ban went into effect last year.
 
  it was funny because the bar we were at had like 5 cigarette reps there handing out oodles of free smokes, and the owner allowed us to smoke til closing (even though the ban was midnight). apparently not all bars were that "nice" because by 12:45am the place was PACKED with people who left other bars that made everyone put out the smokes at the stroke of 12.
 
   the smoking ban probably isnt so bad in Cali, but when its -15C outside in Toronto...its kind of a son of a bitch to step outside!

[vansmack]

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   the smoking ban probably isnt so bad in Cali, but when its -15C outside in Toronto...its kind of a son of a bitch to step outside!

This is my favorite argument.  The guy who's willing to give himself cancer is all of a sudden worried about catching a cold.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

I just don't think smokers get it.
 
 You can use all the hurts business/helps business arguments you want. But the bottom line is that secondhand smoke is harmful to other human beings. If you don't care about your own health, at least have some compassion for your fellow human beings and refrain from doing something that does harm to others.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by vansmack:
  The guy who's willing to give himself cancer is all of a sudden worried about catching a cold.

i dont think its worried of actually "catching" the cold. but its just COLD.  plus with all those gloves, hats and jackets.  
 
    my REAL argument (apparently you are trying to force it out of me, even though i thought i was just telling a story) is that i should be allowed to let people smoke in my business if i want to. shouldnt be up to the government....though that doesnt go with my socialistic views.

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I just don't think smokers get it.
 
 You can use all the hurts business/helps business arguments you want. But the bottom line is that secondhand smoke is harmful to other human beings. If you don't care about your own health, at least have some compassion for your fellow human beings and refrain from doing something that does harm to others.

ohhhh, i get it now!!
 
 thanks rhett, you and celeste are just so damn helpful.  for years, i had wandered around like an idiot, not fully understanding the issues surrounding cigarettes.  luckily, i stumbled across this board and found you two wise souls.  i am forever in debt to you.
 
 by the way, would you tell bobby bare to put a cigarette out if you were giving him head? i think not!

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

I've never seen Bobby Bare Jr. smoke. At least not when I've given him head.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  If you don't care about your own health, at least have some compassion for your fellow human beings and refrain from doing something that does harm to others.

thats stupid rhett
 
   if i dont care about my own health why in fucks sake should i care about yours. i mean, think about it.
   (just taking a stance, i really care about both, i am a nice Canadian...we dont mean to harm other people)