Last Great Debut Album?

[palahniukkubrick]

Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
   

Originally posted by you be pickup:
   On Avery Island? Get the fuck outta here, Julian.  

That was a complete joke. My serious answers are Ten and Give Up. [/b]

Yeah, I thought it was. Sometimes it's hard to pickup on sarcasm in internet postings. But Give Up? Get the fuck outta here, Julian.
 
 

Originally posted by TheDirector217:
  Without diving too far in, you wouldn't say The Chronic fits that decription?

Straight Outta Compton was one I forgot.  The Chronic is bested by that.
 
 

Originally posted by Mobius:
 I don't follow the logic of this at all.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that a lot of people are naming albums that are very good, and some of the best of their time, but they aren't ones that truly  mattered.

[killsaly]

rage against the machine
 pearl jam - ten
 daft punk - homework
 basement jaxx - remedy
 deftones - adrenaline
 Korn
 Marilyn Manson - Portrait of an American Family
 the Strokes - Is This It?  
 Stone Temple Pilots - Core
 the Streets - Original Pirate Material
 Tenacious D
 
 some of my favorite debuts

[Firebutt McGee]

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[Vas Deferens]

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by you be pickup:
  But Give Up? Get the fuck outta here, Julian.

Did you even read my defense of this choice on page 1 or 2? I think my argument at least has some merit.

[Darth Ed]

I'm going to second The Arcade Fire's Funeral. I'm surprised it took until page 2 before someone mentioned it.
 
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[beetsnotbeats]

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  Originally released in 1989.
 
 "It's the greatest thing I've ever heard."
 - Hal Willner, producer, Saturday Night Live
 
 "Brilliant production... the most interesting album of 1989."
 - Jens Kohler, Ice
 
 "John Oswald has achieved the pinnacle of the 1980's cut-and-paste aesthetic. Spectacular Frankenstein monsters. One of the most adventurous and musically rewarding experiments to emerge from the age of digital sampling."
 (TOP TEN LIST OF THE '80s) - Derk Richardson, San Francisco Bay Guardian
 
 "Plunderphonics is as mesmerizing and synapse-frying a piece of aural vandalism as has ever been committed."
 - Byron Coley, Spin
 
 "It's a masterpiece...the best new release in five years."
 - John Zorn: composer, NYC
 
 "Plunderphonic is my favorite release of the year. This art is more radical in its social and political implications than the introduction of the electric guitar."
 - Henry Kaiser, East Bay Express
 
 "Startling. [The] year's hippest banned record."
 - Richard Gehr, Creem
 
 "It's beautiful."
 - Bill Frisell: guitarist, Hoboken NJ
 
 "It's great."
 - Al Kooper: musian/producer, LA
 
 "One of the most brilliant things I've ever heard."
 - John Wiggins, HBO,NYC
 
 "For the moment, John Oswald is a solo movement, the most exciting school of one in music."
 - Milo Miles, Village Voice
 
 "Great! If there was a way I could release this I would in a minute.
 - Robert Hurwitz, executive producer, Nonesuch Records
 
 "I've been playing [the Plunderphonics CD] for everyone who will listen and thus far the response has been 100%. They all want copies."
 - Phil Perkins: sound designer, SF
 
 "It's great! It's fab! I love it! I've played it for lots of people, whose reactions range from knocked out to completely befuddled. I guess this means you've created a masterpiece (or two or three or four - my favorites keep shifting)."
 - Matt Groening: cartoonist. Life In Hell & The Simpsons
 
 "Plunderphonics is recreational savagery... A consistently brilliant record."
 - David Toop, London Times
 
 "It tickled me...It's a celebration."
 - Bob Krasnow: president, Elektra Records
 
 "The Gravity's Rainbow of recordings. Complex, hilarious, moving and revealing."
 - anon., Boston
 
 "Mr. Oswald flew past the level of mere sampling. He has taken sampling fifty times beyond what we've come to expect."
 - Brian Robertson: president,Canadian Recording Indusry Ass.

[nkotb]

Not her debut.  Also, even though I think it's a bit of a stretch, I'd agree that Julian's vote for Give Up has some merit.  I don't think it should be mentioned in the same breathe as some of these discs, but I can see what he's going for.
 
 Funeral, on the other hand, is just ridiculous.  What impact has that had other than to get indie nerds and bloggers salivating?
 
 

Originally posted by ixkpd-bk:
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[Vas Deferens]

Y Kant Tori Read is with a band, so I think Little Earthquakes counts as a debut.
 
   

Originally posted by nkotb:
  Not her debut.  Also, even though I think it's a bit of a stretch, I'd agree that Julian's vote for Give Up has some merit.  I don't think it should be mentioned in the same breathe as some of these discs, but I can see what he's going for.
 
 

[nkotb]

Didn't know that.  Another interesting bit of trivia (according to Wikipedia), is that future GNR drummer Matt Sorum.  It's all come full circle.
 
 That being said, do you really think Little Earthquakes counts?
 
 

Originally posted by wanderlust featuring j. marshmallow:
  Y Kant Tori Read is with a band, so I think Little Earthquakes count as a debut.

[Brian_Wallace]

Originally posted by nkotb:
 
 Funeral, on the other hand, is just ridiculous.  What impact has that had other than to get indie nerds and bloggers salivating?
 

Amen.
 
 Two other points:
 
 1.)  I thought this discussion was framed American.  If we are to include the UK, I'd say "The Stone Roses" may be even bigger than "Appetite."  I really don't think "The Stone Roses" was very big (in any sense) in America, except with hipsters.  Actually, "Second Coming" sold more in America than "The Stone Roses."  Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
 
 2.)  Am I the only one who thinks that Gwen Stefani was MUCH more attractive in her early years ("No Doubt" album-era)?  Once "Tragic Kingdom" came out she started to look like some bizarre Muppet/Troll doll combination.  That's what you get for marrying a queen.
 
 Brian

[Vas Deferens]

Nope, though it's a great debut.
 
 

Originally posted by nkotb:
 
 
 That being said, do you really think Little Earthquakes counts?
 
 

[TheREALHunter]

Fugazi's first EP
 
 And if Soundgarden had not realized that piece of shit "Ultramega OK" beforehand, "Louder Than Love" would be high on my list, same with Jane's Addiction (though the XXX LP is definitely listenable, it's just not in the league of "Nothings Shocking").

[TheREALHunter]

Originally posted by wanderlust featuring j. marshmallow:
  Y Kant Tori Read is with a band, so I think Little Earthquakes counts as a debut.
 
   

Originally posted by nkotb:
  Not her debut.  Also, even though I think it's a bit of a stretch, I'd agree that Julian's vote for Give Up has some merit.  I don't think it should be mentioned in the same breathe as some of these discs, but I can see what he's going for.
 
 

[/b]

Y Kant Tori Read is a solo album, one that contained studio musicians perhaps but still a solo album.

[nkotb]

I'm certainly no expert, but according to Wikipedia, Y Kant Tori Read was a band that featured Tori.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_Kant_Tori_Read
 
 I was surprised to read that too.  Then I remembered that I didn't care.
 
 

Originally posted by TheREALHunter:
 Y Kant Tori Read is a solo album, one that contained studio musicians perhaps but still a solo album.