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nkotb

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Last Great Debut Album?
« on: August 08, 2007, 02:37:00 pm »
So I was reading Rolling Stone's article on Appetite for Destruction  turning 20 years old (which made me feel old), and it really got me thinking about classic debut albums.  Appetite was one for the record books; like it or not, I don't think you can really discredit it's place in rock history.
 
 But beyond that, I can't think of a single debut album that caused such a stir.  Can Appetite really be the last great debut album?  The only thing I can think of as a potential contender would be Slanted & Enchanted, but less face facts...it didn't have a quarter of the reach that Appetite did.
 
 Any thoughts?  Can I really be forgetting something that would top it?  And don't start throwing around bullshit "I love the Arctic Monkeys' debut album" because that's pure idiocy.

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Re: Last Great Debut Album?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2007, 02:38:00 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2007, 02:43:00 pm »
As much as I hate to say it, I think the Killers Hot Fuss is going to be looked back at as fondly as Appetite.
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2007, 02:46:00 pm »
This was a damn fine debut that has held up better than his hairstyle...
 
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2007, 02:49:00 pm »
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  This was a damn fine debut that has held up better than his hairstyle...
 
 
you know... i may have to agree with this.
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Re: Last Great Debut Album?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2007, 02:50:00 pm »
If Pavement doesn't count, Jeff Buckley doesn't count.
 
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2007, 02:51:00 pm »
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  This was a damn fine debut that has held up better than his hairstyle...
 
I don't disagree that it's a damn fine album, but I think many people are still "discovering" that album even today.  I read an article where "Hallelujah" appears on a TV show (The West Wing, The OC) and album sales (and now iTunes song sales) spike accordingly.  You wouldn't have that with Appetite because most people already have it or have already decided that they are never going to buy it.
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nkotb

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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2007, 02:51:00 pm »
I'm not saying they don't count; just in my opinion neither had quite the impact that Appetite did (though I'd say Pavement had a bigger impact than Jeff Buckley, but again, it's just my opinion).
 
 
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2007, 02:53:00 pm »
yeah, there's no way jeff buckley fits what nkotb's going for. i mean, the strokes' first album caused much more of a stir than "grace" ever did.

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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2007, 02:54:00 pm »
That's not Beck's debut.
 
 
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2007, 02:56:00 pm »
Ding ding ding.  
 
 This sort of dropped a lot of bands out of the running.  I'd think EPs would be fine (I think GNR had an EP out first, maybe), but just mentioning the breakthrough album wouldn't count.
 
   
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2007, 02:56:00 pm »
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  As much as I hate to say it, I think the Killers Hot Fuss is going to be looked back at as fondly as Appetite.
In response to that, I respond with the tenth track on "Appetite":  "You're Crazy."  For what?  "Smile Like You Mean It?"  
 
 Who listens to "Appetite" any way?  Just nostalgic middle-aged guys from the 80's.  Surprise!  Surprise!  Rolling Stone nostalgically looking back at something that happened twenty years ago?!  GET OUT!  Jann Werner would NEVER do that.  He wouldn't do an entire issue devoted to 1967, either.  Jesus, why don't Jann Werner and all his "buddies" just die right now?
 
 Last Great Debut?  That's easy.  "Is This It."  And for the early 2000's, it was just as influential as "Appetite for Destruction."  How many bands sounded like GnR after that came out?  Ok, now how many bands sounded like the Strokes after "Is This It" came out?
 
 I rest my case.  Q.E.D.
 
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Re: Last Great Debut Album?
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2007, 02:58:00 pm »
You are out of your mind  :)
 
 
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  As much as I hate to say it, I think the Killers Hot Fuss is going to be looked back at as fondly as Appetite.
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2007, 03:00:00 pm »
Brian,
 
 nkotb is not even in his 30s  :)
 
 
 
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  Who listens to "Appetite" any way?  Just nostalgic middle-aged guys from the 80's.  Surprise!  Surprise!  
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Re: Last Great Debut Album?
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2007, 03:00:00 pm »
On the world music scene, Definitely Maybe is a viable argument, albeit its minor effect in America.
 
 Arguments could be made for Pearl Jam's Ten or The Postal Service's Give Up.