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Sage 703

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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #270 on: February 21, 2008, 02:03:00 pm »
I guess you've illustrated my point.
 
 If you don't believe that it is possible to work within the system to change it, then I think we all lose out.  If it really isn't possible to build true consensus, then our government is broken beyond repair and we should hunker down for the inevitable loss of prestige, stability and power that will come with that.
 
 The trick - ultimately - is compromise.  And I think Obama's record working with the GOP in Illinois is indicative of his ability to do just that.  Not only that, perhaps Obama's biggest strength is his ability to motivate the public to demand action.  Politicians answer to their constituents - and Obama has been able to motivate people to do, say, and believe in more than they have before.  Given the national stage to put forth a platform, I really believe he can lead the American people to demand policy changes.  
 
 That is the "change" that is talked about - it is a change in attitude; a change in belief that Washington isn't accountable to the people they represent.
 
 I just received an email from the campaign saying that Obama has received donations from 936,000 people over the course of this campaign.  That is absolutely incredible - almost 1,000,000 people DONATING MONEY to a presidential campaign?  To me, that indicates his ability to call upon the collective will of the American people to demand something different.  For now, that message is limited to an election - but give him a platform, and I think he turns that motivation to the issues: health care, the war in Iraq, the economy, responsible energy policy, or whatever else you'd like to point out.  
 
 What is more powerful than a movement of American people demanding change on a specific issue?  The only way sweeping changes have ever been made in this country were due to a mass movement of people demanding it.  Obama can lead that movement on any number of issues.  If you can get the American people to stand up and ask for something, eventually, things begin to change.  You've seen it with this campaign, and I believe you'll see it in the issues with an Obama presidency.  Hillary Clinton just can't do that.

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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #271 on: February 21, 2008, 02:06:00 pm »
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 you arent really taking the sports analogy seriously are you?
It worked on so many levels until you started throwing people who weren't in Super Bowl 36 into it. [/b]
heh, i thought it was silly for walalalalace to want an experienced drew bledsoe of all people. i would have kept it going except i hate brady
 
 i had a whole donovan mcnabb getting cheated analogy in my head though
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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #272 on: February 21, 2008, 02:10:00 pm »
I guess when it comes right down to it, you can have the optimist banner, but I'm claiming the pragmatist one. I believe if Christ himself was elected President, the political party he wasn't part of would oppose him viciously. I think we live in a politically divided country and 50% of America aren't going to "compromise" their beliefs on abortion, taxes, health care, gun control, the death penalty, etc because Barack Obama (or anyone) tells them they need to. When religious beliefs come into play, people get strange. We've seen it in the Muslim part of the world for years but Christendom is just as bad. I have no doubt that 45% of America would rather see another civil war then see gays marry, because in their head, that's what Jesus would want.
 
 I dunno, just my take on it. I think the best we can hope for is small changes over time on social issues and medium changes on financial issues. I don't think anyone in this political climate is going to step in and greatly alter the system we live in.

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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #273 on: February 21, 2008, 02:13:00 pm »
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 i had a whole donovan mcnabb getting cheated analogy in my head though
So is Al Gore the mobile African-American QB who never wins anything and Bush, Jr. the Bill Belichek?

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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #274 on: February 21, 2008, 02:22:00 pm »
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 i had a whole donovan mcnabb getting cheated analogy in my head though
So is Al Gore the mobile African-American QB who never wins anything and Bush, Jr. the Bill Belichek? [/b]
and t.o. as ralph nader
 
 too bad its soccer season. all of my hillary ones go there
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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #275 on: February 21, 2008, 02:37:00 pm »
Carter better than Reagan? WTF...
 
 two words: misery index

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« Reply #276 on: February 21, 2008, 03:25:00 pm »
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  Carter better than Reagan? WTF...
 
 two words: misery index
Much higher under Reagan.

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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #277 on: February 21, 2008, 04:00:00 pm »
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  Carter better than Reagan? WTF...
 
 two words: misery index
Much higher under Reagan. [/b]
Are you confusing misery with bullshit?
 
 HEY HEY HEY Obama is the black Reagan!!! He makes some feel all warm and fuzzy but actually hasn't 'done' anything productive.

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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #278 on: February 21, 2008, 04:04:00 pm »
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  Carter better than Reagan? WTF...
 
 two words: misery index
Much higher under Reagan. [/b]
possibly right after he took office after carter.  no where near as high when reagan left office. sorry.

Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #279 on: February 21, 2008, 04:14:00 pm »
Does anyone else think Obama looks like the black Carl Edwards?
 
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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #280 on: February 21, 2008, 04:24:00 pm »
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  Does anyone else think Obama looks like the black Carl Edwards?
Not so much. Your Hillary/Walken comparison was more spot on.

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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #281 on: February 21, 2008, 04:44:00 pm »
This is yer white Obama....
 
 
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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #282 on: February 21, 2008, 05:09:00 pm »
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  Does anyone else think Obama looks like the black Carl Edwards?
Well, if you ignore the differences in hair, eyes, ears, chin and nose, then sure.

Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #283 on: February 21, 2008, 05:21:00 pm »
Oh, come on now. They've both got a boring nerdy clean cut boy scout haircut, prominent Romanesque nose, full lips, oval face shape, long gangly limbs and fingers. And if you use Kurt Busch's big ears (especially before he had his ear pinning surgery)...
 
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  Does anyone else think Obama looks like the black Carl Edwards?
Well, if you ignore the differences in hair, eyes, ears, chin and nose, then sure. [/b]

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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #284 on: February 21, 2008, 05:56:00 pm »
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