i am sorry you all need to be pussy footed around and told america is great at all times, cant question that, I tend not to be a big believer in nationalism and patriotism, perhaps because I am only American by birth and did not grow up in the US and lived abroad for much of my childhood, or perhaps I am an ignorant twat, sorry for the outburst, I just get tired of the cutting off of conversation with the sheep shit and cult member shit, I am only a member of one cult and that is GBV