1984

[manimtired]

sweetcell stfu and gtfo.  im sure if your parents were being held hostage by a terrorist you would ask them nicely to please let them go . 

[godsshoeshine]

now this conservative dishrag of a paper is reporting this...
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/22/us/politics/22blair.html?_r=1

wut da lol?

?The information gained from these techniques was valuable in some instances, but there is no way of knowing whether the same information could have been obtained through other means,? Admiral Blair said in a written statement issued last night. ?The bottom line is these techniques have hurt our image around the world, the damage they have done to our interests far outweighed whatever benefit they gave us and they are not essential to our national security."

[manimtired]

funny how the quote you pulled was stated a week after the original memo was released.  someone got a "talkin to"...
this is backfiring on the messiah. LOL!

[godsshoeshine]

lol @ u poking holes in your own source

[manimtired]

um...see the first paragraph when it said the memo was released last week.  then in the quote you posted it says "last night"...
reading comprehension. LOLz

[godsshoeshine]

i understand that

you linked an article that quotes only blair and his spokesperson. in one part he says torture yielded significant results, and in another part he said the ends dont justify the means. either he's credible or not, and seeing as how you linked the article i would assume you agree

[Sage 703]

Paging Venerable Bede.

[sweetcell]

now this conservative dishrag of a paper is reporting this...
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/22/us/politics/22blair.html?_r=1

wut da lol?

you do realize there is a difference between something being reported ("CIA spokesperson said today...") and it being true (aka proven)?   oh no, wait, you probably don't.

Paging Venerable Bede.

yes please.  let's inject some intelligence in this exchange STAT.

[manimtired]

i think i'd take the word of a private memo from a week ago rather than a written public statement from a day ago. LOL@sweetcell failing in this thread.

[manimtired]

i understand that

you linked an article that quotes only blair and his spokesperson. in one part he says torture yielded significant results, and in another part he said the ends dont justify the means. either he's credible or not, and seeing as how you linked the article i would assume you agree

like i said earlier...it seems that he had to change his tone after this memo leaked and he had a "talkin to"...get it?

[godsshoeshine]

the part i quoted is in line with blairs confirmation hearing statement. the 'is torture effective' question is not as important as 'is it worth it'

[walkonby]

this thread fits my definition of torture.  lol

good to see you back mannie. 

[manimtired]

ill believe the private internal memo.

[sonickteam2]

this thread fits my definition of torture.  lol

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 Hear hear!

[Sage 703]

this thread fits my definition of torture.  lol

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 Hear hear!

So go to another thread.