Dead Weather tonight!

[MonkeyPants]

It's still overpriced. I mean, $30 for a poster? Just because Jack White is in the band doesn't mean they have to charge that much...esp. for a band that has one album!

How can a poster be considered overpriced when it sells out and then goes for 4x face value on the secondary market?

$30 bucks isa pretty standard price for a hand screened concert poster.  When you start thinking of the big boys in the world of gig posters (emek, horkey, jay ryan, etc), $30 bucks is actually a pretty good deal. 

Yeah, it is kinda steep if you think it's an offset print, thin-papered piece of crap that you'd buy in wal-mart, but they're not.  It's limited edition, hand-pulled, custom work for a one-time event.  A lot of effort goes into designing, printing, shipping, etc just to get it to the venue in time for the show.  All those steps have fees and the end result you pay for all those fees plus a small markup.

Then you flip-it on the secondary market and pay for the poster, your ticket, your friends ticket and all your beer (..well, maybe not the beer, especially here).

The National has hand-screen posters - $15.  Pearl Jam does $30 posters, but they also have 8 albums out.  Maybe $20 or $25 at the most.  $30 for The Dead Weather is ridiculous.

$10 was just for the download card - not an actual CD.  CDs were $14.  T-shirts were $30.  Again, not outrageous for The White Stripes, but for the Dead Weather ridiculous.

[hutch]

It's still overpriced. I mean, $30 for a poster? Just because Jack White is in the band doesn't mean they have to charge that much...esp. for a band that has one album!

How can a poster be considered overpriced when it sells out and then goes for 4x face value on the secondary market?

$30 bucks isa pretty standard price for a hand screened concert poster.  When you start thinking of the big boys in the world of gig posters (emek, horkey, jay ryan, etc), $30 bucks is actually a pretty good deal. 

Yeah, it is kinda steep if you think it's an offset print, thin-papered piece of crap that you'd buy in wal-mart, but they're not.  It's limited edition, hand-pulled, custom work for a one-time event.  A lot of effort goes into designing, printing, shipping, etc just to get it to the venue in time for the show.  All those steps have fees and the end result you pay for all those fees plus a small markup.

Then you flip-it on the secondary market and pay for the poster, your ticket, your friends ticket and all your beer (..well, maybe not the beer, especially here).

The National has hand-screen posters - $15.  Pearl Jam does $30 posters, but they also have 8 albums out.  Maybe $20 or $25 at the most.  $30 for The Dead Weather is ridiculous.

$10 was just for the download card - not an actual CD.  CDs were $14.  T-shirts were $30.  Again, not outrageous for The White Stripes, but for the Dead Weather ridiculous.

I think you're ridiculous! How about that!!!!!!!!!

What? there's some sort of "albums you've released to price ratio on mechandise"?? Since when?

Dead Weather may be new but its a Jack WHite project... so its not the first album... its more like the 10th..

I guess by that measure according to your ratio analysis the merch was cheap?

Also, as has been pointed out not all posters are created alike.

Really some people are always looking for an excuse to be negative...Either that or they are very cheap.

[fatskippy]

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I guess $130 for a Dead Weather print is REALLY ridiculous then?  I have one of those National posters on my wall, not signed or numbered. 

[hutch]

so how WAS last nights show?

tell me they played more songs???

anybody go?

i have this theory second night is always better.. course i always end up going first night!

[MonkeyPants]

so how WAS last nights show?

tell me they played more songs???

anybody go?

i have this theory second night is always better.. course i always end up going first night!

According to someone who went both nights, it was exactly the same.  Surprised?

Not looking for an excuse to be negative, just surprised at how expensive this stuff is just because it's associated with Jack White.  When Dave Grohl went from Nirvana to Foo Fighters, he didn't charge Nirvana prices for things.  Just sayin...I think the same of Eddie Vedder's crazy prices for his solo stuff...love Pearl Jam, will pay money for Pearl Jam, but will not pay the same or more for one guy.  Maybe Jack White should just put some shit on a poster and charge $30.

[Vas Deferens]

what about a Jack White dildo for $30? I think everyone who went nuts when he played guitar on ONE song would use it.

[gaaaaaaaaah]

Hutch, your "Jack White is in the band, so it's really like it's a White Stripes concert" argument is incredibly flawed, and rather shitty.

It just shows how much of a prick Jack White is, that he can form a band, release one album, and pretend he's in this legendary rock group that can charge $35 for a 50 minute show.

I'm fine with $30 for a poster.  The two I've bought from Wilco were $25, but considering how much work goes into these things, $30 is a steal.  But the idea that, just because Jack White is involved, they can charge WS ticket prices is just absurd.

[hutch]

so how WAS last nights show?

tell me they played more songs???

anybody go?

i have this theory second night is always better.. course i always end up going first night!

According to someone who went both nights, it was exactly the same.  Surprised?

Not looking for an excuse to be negative, just surprised at how expensive this stuff is just because it's associated with Jack White.  When Dave Grohl went from Nirvana to Foo Fighters, he didn't charge Nirvana prices for things.  Just sayin...I think the same of Eddie Vedder's crazy prices for his solo stuff...love Pearl Jam, will pay money for Pearl Jam, but will not pay the same or more for one guy.  Maybe Jack White should just put some shit on a poster and charge $30.

Well I am surprised it was the same..I thought they'd be ashamed to stream such  a short show! Its got be less than an hour easy!... But the order was different at least cause from the NPR setlist they didn't end with New Pony the second night.. I don't know all the song titles

people are willing to pay for Jack White stuff.. he's very collectible... his stuff appreciates in value...people are on it

When Grohl went from Nirvana to Foo Fighters he was "the other guy in Nirvana... no not the bassist dude.. the drummer".. he was pretty unknown and completely overshadowed by Cobain...

Thats not the case for Jack White..

Listening to the NPR stream right now.. definitely starts with same song ...

[hutch]

Hutch, your "Jack White is in the band, so it's really like it's a White Stripes concert" argument is incredibly flawed, and rather shitty.

It just shows how much of a prick Jack White is, that he can form a band, release one album, and pretend he's in this legendary rock group that can charge $35 for a 50 minute show.

I'm fine with $30 for a poster.  The two I've bought from Wilco were $25, but considering how much work goes into these things, $30 is a steal.  But the idea that, just because Jack White is involved, they can charge WS ticket prices is just absurd.

You know gaaaaaaaah or whatever here serves us a perfect example of what happens when people post shit out of their ass without bothering to read just trying to start arguments! I specifically when I started this thread said the ticket price was too high and that it should have been $25....

Learn how to read and next time try "I agree with Hutch that $35 was too much."

[imbecile]

so how WAS last nights show?

tell me they played more songs???

anybody go?

i have this theory second night is always better.. course i always end up going first night!

According to someone who went both nights, it was exactly the same.  Surprised?

Not looking for an excuse to be negative, just surprised at how expensive this stuff is just because it's associated with Jack White.  When Dave Grohl went from Nirvana to Foo Fighters, he didn't charge Nirvana prices for things.  Just sayin...I think the same of Eddie Vedder's crazy prices for his solo stuff...love Pearl Jam, will pay money for Pearl Jam, but will not pay the same or more for one guy.  Maybe Jack White should just put some shit on a poster and charge $30.

I think  you're missing the mark on this a bit.  As far as the poster goes.. It has way less to do with Jack White than it does the artist and the limited edition aspect.  If he did an identical poster but for some other band playing in DC, the price may drop about 5 bucks.  That's it.  The production cost is still there, and the collectible aspect of the art work is still there.  Yeah, Rob Jones and Jack White projects have exclusive poster deals so it can be said that his artwork value is inflated because it all has to do with Jack White, but I don't think that inflation is very substantial.

As for the other merch.. I've only been to 6-7 shows at the club this year, but every one of them had shirts in the $20-30 range, and CDs anywhere from $10-15.  In contrast, I saw Isis at the black cat a month or so back and shirts were 12 bucks.  When you get to the level that you're selling out the 9:30 club, you're crap is going to be expensive.  I hate it just as much as  you do, but it's not a product of Jack White having anything to do with it.


Edit.. as for the ticket price discussion:  You'll find no arguments from anyone i know that we certainly would not pay $35 for that show again.  Way too short.

[hutch]

ONe last thing:

I noticed the Dead Weather was charging $25 in other cities...

Could it be that the 930 Club encouraged the higher price?

I mean does the venue enter at all into the discussions on price?

[gaaaaaaaaah]

Was the 930 smaller than the other venues?

[hutch]

Was the 930 smaller than the other venues?

Good point. I don't know.

[gaaaaaaaaah]

Well, I'd imagine the band charges a certain amount, and it's relatively consistent for all these shows, so the ticket price might have had to vary to bring in the same amount of money from show to show.

[xneverwherex]

The show is $30 in NYC, $35 day of and is at Terminal 5. Probably the biggest venue on the tour would be my guess. I think they were $25 (or maybe even $35) at Bowery Ballroom when they were here a few months ago.

Anyway - regardless of who is playing Terminal 5 - $30 is way tooooooo much.

And the show is $32 at The Wiltern in LA. And almost every show is priced in the $30 range.
So its not like the 9:30 charged some exorbitant price, its right there with everyone else.

ONe last thing:

I noticed the Dead Weather was charging $25 in other cities...

Could it be that the 930 Club encouraged the higher price?

I mean does the venue enter at all into the discussions on price?