Author Topic: ORIOLES  (Read 486126 times)

vansmack

  • Member
  • Posts: 19722
Re: ORIOLES
« Reply #390 on: October 02, 2012, 12:18:41 am »
 
i read that this is the case if it's oakland and baltimore in the wild card.

wild card will be in Oakland regardless or records, they go by the head go head.

Well, I'm not sure where you read that but it's ABSOLUTELY incorrect.

The home team for the wild card is the team with the best record.

In the event of a tie, it goes like this:

1. Head-to-head winning percentage during the 2012 regular season.
2. Higher winning percentage in intradivision games.
3. Higher winning percentage in the last half of intraleague games.
4. Higher winning percentage in the last half plus one intraleague game, provided that such additional game was not between the two tied clubs. Continue to go back one intraleague game at a time until the tie has been broken.

The only anomaly is the case of a three way tie with one division deciding game, then the loser of the  division game to the other teams stadium, rather than head to head record deciding.
27>34

shemptiness

  • Member
  • Posts: 3326
Re: ORIOLES
« Reply #391 on: October 02, 2012, 07:39:54 am »
Seems to me the loser of a divisional tie-break game should be considered the #1 wild card team.  This  seems to contradict that notion.

Why would you think that?

I'm sure MLB's rationale had something to do with TV trucks getting set up or travel arrangements or some like that, so I agree that their rationale isn't any better, but I'm just wondering why you would argue that case.

For the record, I think it should be head-to-head and Oakland is 5-4 against the O's this season, but 5-5 against the Yanks, so go figure.

It's almost like by losing the tiebreaker you're dropping 2 slots - down to WC #2.  I understand the rules, but it just seems odd.  I don't want to see them have to go to that football stadium from hell I guess.

James Ford

  • Member
  • Posts: 5620
Re: ORIOLES
« Reply #392 on: October 02, 2012, 08:01:19 am »
Very odd.

Let's concede that the O's finish second to the Yanks in the regular season, as many seem to be already.

Then they should hope for a Texas/Oakland tie. That way  they (the O's) host the wild card game. As opposed to one team winning the West outright, then the O's would have to travel west (they lost season series to both Oakland and Teexas) to play the wild card game. Though since Texas is up by one with two to go and they're playing each other, one of them IS going to take it outright.

Hence, I guess we now know there is absolutely zero chance there will be a wild card game in Baltimore, right?  They either win the division, or are the visiting wild card team.

Seems to me the loser of a divisional tie-break game should be considered the #1 wild card team.  This  seems to contradict that notion.

Why would you think that?

I'm sure MLB's rationale had something to do with TV trucks getting set up or travel arrangements or some like that, so I agree that their rationale isn't any better, but I'm just wondering why you would argue that case.

For the record, I think it should be head-to-head and Oakland is 5-4 against the O's this season, but 5-5 against the Yanks, so go figure.

It's almost like by losing the tiebreaker you're dropping 2 slots - down to WC #2.  I understand the rules, but it just seems odd.  I don't want to see them have to go to that football stadium from hell I guess.

James Ford

  • Member
  • Posts: 5620
Re: ORIOLES
« Reply #393 on: October 02, 2012, 08:03:41 am »
These rules seem as bogus and arbitrary as NASCAR rules (like when NASCAR gives drivers bonus points for each time they thank their corporate sponsors in a post-race interview....as opposed to the glory years of NASCAR when drivers earned bonus points for thanking the Good Lord in post-race interviews.)

K8teebug

  • Member
  • Posts: 4124
Re: ORIOLES
« Reply #394 on: October 02, 2012, 08:14:28 am »
Apparently tickets to break a would be Yanks/O's tie on Thursday go on sale tomorrow (Tues) at 2pm.  Game would be in Bmore due to a tiebreaker.

Tickets go on sale to season ticket holders at 10

Tickets go on sale to those in the MASN area at 12

General Public at 2

K8teebug

  • Member
  • Posts: 4124
Re: ORIOLES
« Reply #395 on: October 02, 2012, 08:15:04 am »
There are still 2 games to play folks!  Must win for the Orioles as it seems that the Red Sox are just putting in all their minor league players instead of actual players.

K8teebug

  • Member
  • Posts: 4124
Re: ORIOLES
« Reply #396 on: October 02, 2012, 08:17:16 am »
Also, it would be nice if the Rangers would just step the f up.

shemptiness

  • Member
  • Posts: 3326
Re: ORIOLES
« Reply #397 on: October 02, 2012, 08:19:21 am »

Hence, I guess we now know there is absolutely zero chance there will be a wild card game in Baltimore, right?  They either win the division, or are the visiting wild card team.


If the Orioles win 2 (which they MUST) and Oakland loses 1 the WC game is in Baltimore.  Unless the Yankees lose 1 then there will be a tiebreaker game 1st.

James Ford

  • Member
  • Posts: 5620
Re: ORIOLES
« Reply #398 on: October 02, 2012, 08:21:31 am »
Ah, ok thanks. I started thinking that might be the case after i typed the other post.



Hence, I guess we now know there is absolutely zero chance there will be a wild card game in Baltimore, right?  They either win the division, or are the visiting wild card team.


If the Orioles win 2 (which they MUST) and Oakland loses 1 the WC game is in Baltimore.  Unless the Yankees lose 1 then there will be a tiebreaker game 1st.

imbecile

  • Member
  • Posts: 332
Re: ORIOLES
« Reply #399 on: October 02, 2012, 08:43:03 am »
There are still 2 games to play folks!  Must win for the Orioles as it seems that the Red Sox are just putting in all their minor league players instead of actual players.

I'm not sure the Red Sox have any actual players left.  ..and I say that as a Sox fan.  Still, I would expect them to step up and try and put the screws to the Yankees.  Yet more disappointment from this team.

K8teebug

  • Member
  • Posts: 4124
Re: ORIOLES
« Reply #400 on: October 02, 2012, 08:49:34 am »
There are still 2 games to play folks!  Must win for the Orioles as it seems that the Red Sox are just putting in all their minor league players instead of actual players.

I'm not sure the Red Sox have any actual players left.  ..and I say that as a Sox fan.  Still, I would expect them to step up and try and put the screws to the Yankees.  Yet more disappointment from this team.

As a person who rooted for the Sox in the playoffs to beat the Yankees, I wish they would just beat the crap out of them!  (anytime..not just now)

James Ford

  • Member
  • Posts: 5620
Re: ORIOLES
« Reply #401 on: October 02, 2012, 08:56:33 am »
Assuming we MUST root for the O's to win their final two games and they do, it seems like the scenarios would be:

1. Yanks win two, O's would either host wild card or travel for wild card
2. Yanks win one. One game divisional playoff, loser travels across the country to play a rested West team for the wild card the very next day.
3. Yanks win zero, O's win pennant.

As #3 is probably not very likely, would it be better to root for #1 or #2? If #1, that would mean cheering for the Yankees to win games...

shemptiness

  • Member
  • Posts: 3326
Re: ORIOLES
« Reply #402 on: October 02, 2012, 09:01:51 am »
All I know is nobody can control their own destiny, regardless of how many times they say they can. 

shemptiness

  • Member
  • Posts: 3326
Re: ORIOLES
« Reply #403 on: October 02, 2012, 09:29:05 am »
Also, it would be nice if the Rangers would just step the f up.

If they totally roll over they may be coming to Camden Yards Friday.

shemptiness

  • Member
  • Posts: 3326
Re: ORIOLES
« Reply #404 on: October 02, 2012, 10:08:05 am »
Just got 2 box seats for the tiebreaker.  Hope they play it.