TBD

[i am gay and i like cats]

yeah . . . i thought people took drugs, because they are awesome.

[sweetcell]

I'm just saying, isn't being a junkie and od'ing a form of suicide?

And aren't we allowed to laud someone for the good they did in spite of whatever demons controlled them and brought about their downfall?

That said, for all I know he still could have been a douche.

exactly what i was about to write... well said.

[Yada]

So being fat and eating red meat is a form of suicide too?

[James Ford]

In my mind, you do heroin and you're basically writing your suicide note.

I'm just saying, isn't being a junkie and od'ing a form of suicide?

And aren't we allowed to laud someone for the good they did in spite of whatever demons controlled them and brought about their downfall?

That said, for all I know he still could have been a douche.

did he commit suicide?  oh shit . . . my bad.  i just thought he was a junkie who fucked up, like river.

Intentionally taking too much and succeeding in killing yourself = suicide

Overdosing by accident = not a suicide

[i am gay and i like cats]

drinking beer will destroy your liver and kill you.  suicide.

[James Ford]

moderate beer drinking is fine

drinking beer will destroy your liver and kill you.  suicide.

[atomic]

drinking beer will destroy your liver and kill you.  suicide.

Don't try to tarnish beer.  It is too good for that.

[grateful]

I think the preferred term is self sabotage.  Sometimes it results in death.  Sometimes it is just degrading.  And yes, fast food, drinking, smoking and drugging all count.

[Yada]

I think the preferred term is self sabotage.  Sometimes it results in death.  Sometimes it is just degrading.  And yes, fast food, drinking, smoking and drugging all count.

Well, then everyone on this earth is slowly killing themselves, no?

[grateful]

No.

[Yada]

No.

Yes.

[Julian, Bespoke SEXPERT]

This conversation is going to be a complete cluster. It's also ironically what I was eventually banned for posting. I'll check back on this thread in a few days.

[grateful]

I think the real issue is whether or not you engage in behavior that you know is harmful to yourself (assuming you are truthful with yourself and otherwise educated).  You cannot possibly believe that a triple bacon cheeseburger is a reasonable choice.  Yet, you allow yourself to deny that danger.

[i am gay and i like cats]

This conversation is going to be a complete cluster. It's also ironically what I was eventually banned for posting. I'll check back on this thread in a few days.

i thought you were banned because you threatened to stab, or was it shoot, dfa?

[Julian, Bespoke SEXPERT]

i thought you were banned because you threatened to stab, or was it shoot, dfa?

Not at all!