The MLB Thread

[vansmack]

Olbermann made the point, quite convincingly, that Matheny was lying.  Because the truth was his relievers stunk it up all series, but he wasn't going to come out and say that.  So he took the hit.

WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE!

So his alternative was to use a right handed guy who hasn't thrown a pitch since Sept 26, and has only thrown 16 2/3 innings since June 17?

OK, fine.  But after the lefty Belt was walked, with another lefty coming up, you stick with the guy despite his obvious control problems?  You have two lefties in the pen and the weak hitting Ishikawa at the plate!  And your closer!

Matheny definitely takes the loss, and I can't fault him for trotting Wacha out there to start the 9th, but at some point you have to win or lose with what got you there, and he didn't do that.

He can take "the hit" and he should because it was his stupid idea.     

[hutch]

he couldnt say "I dont' trust my bullpen and this was do or die"

didn't work out.....Cards were going down anyways... even if he had put in Rosenthal or whoever I have a feeling the Giants would have won that game...

you have to wonder just why he had to take out wainwright....he was under 100 pitches not that in that situation it really would matter to me if he was at 125... people are saying that its because wainwright is hurt.. its hard to buy into the "didn't have anything left" when he struck out the side in the 7th....

[James Ford]

The starters for the Giants in games two through four had a combined 24-39 record. When was the last time that happened?

[James Ford]

I'm going to stand by my assertion that the "3" team in a 2-3-2 series format is the one with the advantage.

And why were the odds makers making Wild Card KC a favorite over two time (in the last four years) champion SF?

[DeathFromAbove1979]

Because the team that hasn't faced adversity is clearly the better one!

Last night was depressing. It was like watching the Giants/Nats series all over again. I still think the Royals can adjust. They weren't going to go undefeated.

[K8teebug]

I enjoyed watching the Royals lose. I hope they keep losing.

I don't sound bitter at all!

[hutch]

Peavy just looks so hittable...most of his pitches seem like scared...way outside.. or in the dirt... then he throws a fat one down the middle...

[shemptiness]

I'm going to stand by my assertion that the "3" team in a 2-3-2 series format is the one with the advantage.

Well, you're standing on shaky ground.

Since 1980 teams that have been able to force a return to their home park for a Game 6 - even if they have been trailing in the Series - have a 22-4 Series record. 

[James Ford]

Where are you getting your numbers from? This would seem to contradict them (?)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1811052-is-mlbs-2-3-2-postseason-format-fair-for-the-favorite

I'm going to stand by my assertion that the "3" team in a 2-3-2 series format is the one with the advantage.

Well, you're standing on shaky ground.

Since 1980 teams that have been able to force a return to their home park for a Game 6 - even if they have been trailing in the Series - have a 22-4 Series record. 

[shemptiness]

Boz

[vansmack]

Boz

I haven't done the full research yet, but only 18 World Series have gone to 6 games since 1980, so something isn't right. 

EDIT - I think I see what he's saying - he's counting total games played, not series outcomes.  Adding those that went to games 6 & 7, but even then it would 27 games played, not 26.  When I get more time...

[vansmack]

Bosworth was off by 1, in favor of his argument however.

The home team in Games 6 & 7 of the World Series are a combined 23-4 (since 1980).

Of the 18 World Series that have gone to returned to the home park, the home team has won 15 of them (since 1980).

[vansmack]

Where are you getting your numbers from? This would seem to contradict them (?)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1811052-is-mlbs-2-3-2-postseason-format-fair-for-the-favorite

That includes the League Championship Series.  In the World Series, the numbers are vastly different.

SSS of course, but by using their range of 2003-2013, the "higher seed" has won three out of four World Series that reaches games 6 or 7.

The problem of course is that home team is decided by the All-Star game and not the win-loss records, so determining the higher seed based on home filed advantage is a false premise to start with.

[James Ford]

What is the home record of the team that gets the three straight home games?

Where are you getting your numbers from? This would seem to contradict them (?)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1811052-is-mlbs-2-3-2-postseason-format-fair-for-the-favorite

That includes the League Championship Series.  In the World Series, the numbers are vastly different.

SSS of course, but by using their range of 2003-2013, the "higher seed" has won three out of four World Series that reaches games 6 or 7.

The problem of course is that home team is decided by the All-Star game and not the win-loss records, so determining the higher seed based on home filed advantage is a false premise to start with.

[vansmack]

What is the home record of the team that gets the three straight home games?

Haha.  I was already working on it.