Maybe we should just impeach Trump

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But you need two thirds of senate to remove or 16 Republicans

aside: they would need to pick off 17 GOP senators. Dems have 50 but Kamila only gets to vote in the case of a 50-50 tie.  as soon as the vote becomes 51-49 (without her vote), she has to sit on the sidelines.  so 2/3 = 67, AKA 50 + 17.

Math, smath. Trump got 74.2 million votes and he rounds it to 75 million. Can't we round 66.666666666..... to 66?

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Can we go back to talking about my “how do we get Murkowski to list as an Independent and caucus with the Dems” thing?

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Math, smath. Trump got 74.2 million votes and he rounds it to 75 million. Can't we round 66.666666666..... to 66?

Funny every time I see someone post on Twitter that he got 75 mil...I'm like MAGA's suck at math as he only got 74.2

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One of the best proposals I saw today was passing a bill requiring presidential candidates to release their tax returns, which could dissuade he who needs to pardon himself from attempting to run again

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Can we go back to talking about my “how do we get Murkowski to list as an Independent and caucus with the Dems” thing?

so this is trending
Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski calls on President Trump to resign and questions her future as a Republican.

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There could be some that could see this an opportunity to take the party back from Trump's influence and could see a non-Trump aligned candidate for President as being a strong position (not saying I agree with this, but it is a conceivable strategy).     

some may indeed adopt this strategy, but that "some" doesn't include the likes of Cruz.  he and his ilk have no original political thought, expediency and convenience is the best they can come up with.  why innovate when you can take over daddy's spot as soon as he's gone?

i completely agree that cruz et al. pinning their hopes on the MAGA base isn't going to work, at least not nearly as well as they hope it will.  trumpism is above all else a cult of personality.  cruz is at a serious disadvantage, given that he doesn't have a personality ("annoying" and "lecherous" don't count towards one).

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A fun read


https://www.adn.com/politics/2021/01/08/alaska-sen-lisa-murkowski-calls-on-president-trump-to-resign-questions-her-future-as-a-republican/

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But you need two thirds of senate to remove or 16 Republicans

aside: they would need to pick off 17 GOP senators. Dems have 50 but Kamila only gets to vote in the case of a 50-50 tie.  as soon as the vote becomes 51-49 (without her vote), she has to sit on the sidelines.  so 2/3 = 67, AKA 50 + 17.

It's Kamala Harris, not Kamila Harris. Kamala Harris, like the Ugandan Giant.

https://www.katc.com/news/national-news/james-harris-pro-wrestler-known-as-kamala-the-ugandan-giant-dies

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some may indeed adopt this strategy, but that "some" doesn't include the likes of Cruz.

I was clearly not including any Senator who was in favor of holding up the Electoral College approval process in my possible 17 Senators who would consider voting to impeach him.

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https://news.trust.org/item/20210108210622-t35pv

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three other good reasons...
1) loses his 200k+ pension for the rest of his life (which he would continue to donate...HA!)
2) loses his 1 million dollars/year travel allowance
3) loses lifetime full secret service detail

Would he get a presidential library?

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seems like mitch is on board?
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/533461-mcconnell-circulates-procedures-for-second-senate-impeachment-trial-of-trump
not sure he'll be one of the 17, but maybe we'll get questions this time

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one reason the impeachment might not happen: it would be a YUGE distraction just as Biden is kicking off his presidency.  he's talked a lot about how much he & congress need to get done on day 1, but impeachment would suck all the air out of the room.  it would delay the confirmation of Biden's cabinet picks, delaying every agency's work.

and predictably, trump supporters are going to cry foul at the speed of this impeachment.  "it was rigged from the start, he never had a chance to defend himself!!!111".

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Would he get a presidential library?

Yes.

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one reason the impeachment might not happen: it would be a YUGE distraction just as Biden is kicking off his presidency.  he's talked a lot about how much he & congress need to get done on day 1, but impeachment would suck all the air out of the room.  it would delay the confirmation of Biden's cabinet picks, delaying every agency's work.

and predictably, trump supporters are going to cry foul at the speed of this impeachment.  "it was rigged from the start, he never had a chance to defend himself!!!111".

How much time would they need to go over arguments? It like he shot someone in the light of day on Fifth Avenue.