Actually I meant Biden was historically not liked or taken seriously on a national level (even though he ran in probably every presidential election of my lifetime). Then suddenly he WAS liked and taken seriously. He came out of the 8 years as VP more polished and i guess leaderlike . . .until time caught up with him.
He was kind of just a mediocre political animal with lots of baggage. A not particularly smart or charismatic guy but had some charm, tried real hard, and serviced Delaware ably. He had a plagerism scandal. He stood up for Clarence Thomas in the Anita Hill hearings. But over time he evolved (on some levels).
And Kamala also was not taken seriously nationally and looked like a very mediocre political animal in 2020. But politicians evolve. And you hope she spent the last 4 years going from a yellow belt to a black belt or whatever and that now she is ready for the moment in a way that she wasn’t (as Biden previously wasn’t). And that Sullivans observation are true in the past tense but not so much now.