Author Topic: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024  (Read 127249 times)

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1080 on: November 06, 2024, 04:32:08 pm »
Geezus the excuses.

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« Reply #1081 on: November 06, 2024, 04:40:14 pm »
The Electoral College is the source of so many voting issues now, as pointed out last night by Laurence O'Donnell there are millions of voters in NY and CA that don't vote there because the results in those states are foregone conclusions.

Wouldn't that apply to both Dems and Reps in those two states?

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1082 on: November 06, 2024, 04:46:09 pm »
The Electoral College is the source of so many voting issues now, as pointed out last night by Laurence O'Donnell there are millions of voters in NY and CA that don't vote there because the results in those states are foregone conclusions.

Wouldn't that apply to both Dems and Reps in those two states?

would equally apply to deep red states as well... why would someone in wyoming or alabama bother voting?
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1083 on: November 06, 2024, 05:04:49 pm »
Under the rules of the game we lost fair and square.

It’s obviously very raw right now. It sucks. We just got to keep putting one foot in front of the other and better days will come.

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« Reply #1084 on: November 06, 2024, 05:15:16 pm »
making the rounds on twatter:
 
2020
Biden: 81 million votes
Trump: 74 million votes

2024
Trump: 71 million votes
Harris: 66 million votes

wow
If true is jaw dropping
It “felt” like the Dems were going to turn out
That is a crazy reduction after all that has transpired in the last 4 years
I’m despondent over this more than anything


I doubt the voter apathy on Democratic side was due to Kamala being installed . I really don’t think that had  much of an impact
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1085 on: November 06, 2024, 05:20:57 pm »
Democrats gave people nothing to vote for…just something to vote against.

And votes are being counted.

And trust me: Biden would not have ran on “joy”

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1086 on: November 06, 2024, 05:38:26 pm »
miracles do happen!

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« Reply #1087 on: November 06, 2024, 08:16:53 pm »
Democrats gave people nothing to vote for…just something to vote against.
this i whole heartedly agree with


I also think this take is correct

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The Republicans basically owning cable news, Tik Tok, Youtube, podcasts, Twitter, etc... cancelled out any traditional advantages that the Dems had.

I always felt the GOP was low tech and way behind the curve on these kinda things
But they really garnered at ton of support via these new platforms

One block from the Wh today
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1088 on: November 07, 2024, 02:01:35 am »
for fans of Jonathan Pie, and hutch: watch this

(in case you're unfamiliar with JP: his shtick is that he's a TV reporter who goes on rants between being on air, and the off-air diatribes are just top shelf...)
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1089 on: November 07, 2024, 08:59:41 am »
for fans of Jonathan Pie, and hutch: watch this

(in case you're unfamiliar with JP: his shtick is that he's a TV reporter who goes on rants between being on air, and the off-air diatribes are just top shelf...)
'Once again by simply relying on the votes of city dwelling, latte swilling liberal women does not win elections"
he is not wrong


Edit...he should have said Oat-Milk latte swilling...but that didn't sound as good
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1090 on: November 07, 2024, 09:24:18 am »
That’s not fair

What about the suburban latte swillers?

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« Reply #1091 on: November 07, 2024, 09:29:25 am »
S.E. Cupps take take is pretty accurate IMO

And they told me over and over again, they were worried about three things: the economy, crime, and immigration.

To be clear, they weren’t worried about China, fluoride, tampons in men’s rooms, migrants eating their pets, or any of the other garbage that Trump and his surrogates were pushing to inflame his rabid base.
To those concerns, Democrats told them the economy was great — “strong as hell,” in fact — and they’re just not feeling it yet because of “lagging indicators.” No one trying to buy a house or a car or groceries is consoled by lagging indicators.

They were told crime is down, no matter how unsafe they felt. And when the FBI quietly revised its numbers in September to reflect a rise in violent crime, no one corrected the record.

They were told the migrant crisis wasn’t real — that the problems associated with an unmitigated flow of non-citizens into their towns and cities were anecdotal and incidental.

These weren’t people going to Trump rallies or watching the Nelk boys. They were normal Americans, with real problems. And Trump, for all of his ugliness, was acknowledging them.

Lumping these voters — the majority I believe — in with Tony Hinchcliffe, QAnon, Proud Boys, insurrectionists, and the rest of Trump’s ugly cohort may be convenient, and it may feel good. But it isn’t true, and it’s partly why Democrats lost. Ignoring what voters are telling you isn’t a winning strategy.





I really hope the final tally isn't 66Million, that is soo depressing
I thought for sure there was a decent chance Trump could take the EC, but crushing in the Popular Vote...I didn't see that coming at all
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1092 on: November 07, 2024, 09:32:30 am »
Dead on. Would just add they weren’t worried about Trump being Hitler.

Of course anybody that tried to challenge the campaign was told they were wrong, “Joy” and please donate money.

Just a horrible campaign. To my mind worse than any since Gore 2000. They learned nothing from 2016 and just replicated all the mistakes on a bigger scale.
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1093 on: November 07, 2024, 09:53:54 am »
Of course the biggest mistake was saying she wouldn’t do anything different from Biden.

If any one moment cost her the election that was it.

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1094 on: November 07, 2024, 12:21:53 pm »
this is depressing AF

If 1.1% of voters (175,000) across the 3 blue wall states had chosen Harris over Trump, she would be President.

I get that Trump won but this isn’t a “blowout” or a “landslide” and it’s certainly not a mandate.

1.1% across 3 states is all it was.

https://x.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1854291921864110393

fuck the electoral college

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