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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1170 on: November 14, 2024, 04:20:02 pm »
No. I really mean I don’t know. Not sure it’s a bad thing….on the other hand a bit cringe for me. That doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have said it if he wanted to….

Just a bit jarring…
Fair enough. I'm (unfairly) conflating your comment with the army of leftists chuds/Azaghals who are like "he did not punch him in the face -- why would we ever trust the Democratic party again!"
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1171 on: November 14, 2024, 04:23:50 pm »
Cost cutting is fine and dandy but they won't touch defense spending and instead go after items like funding for special education, scientific research... feel sorry for anyone who uses fruit flies to do research... these idiots will soon find out that representatives don't like when funding cuts effect their district red or blue...
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1172 on: November 14, 2024, 04:31:01 pm »
feel sorry for anyone who uses fruit flies to do research...
I've always felt sorry for these people. They hang around a place with fruit flies every day. Depressing as fuck.
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1173 on: November 14, 2024, 04:43:21 pm »
Ok but once again democrats are on the wrong side of the issue. Do you think most Americans support cost cuts in government and making it smaller and more efficient?

Democrats seem to be taking the position there is no need - and certainly didn’t do much in the way of cost cutting during Biden….

And the fallback argument is “they won’t cut defense!”

In today’s world with China, Russia and plenty of bad actors am not sure cutting defense spending makes sense other than on Ukraine aid which the same democrats want to increase!!

Democrats are really struggling right now to have any coherent vision.

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1174 on: November 14, 2024, 04:43:50 pm »
Am in favor of cutting costs in government. How could one not be?=

indeed, everyone is or should be in favor of cost-cutting... but it depends on you definition of cost-cutting. 

trimming the fat?  great! 
destroying a useful organization so that you can unilaterally impose your strict vision of how society should be organized?  yeah not so much.

doing a cost-benefit analysis to determine what is and isn't needed?  great!
removing anything that doesn't conform to your conspiracy theories or false sense of victimization?  again, not so much.

etc.

it seriously worries me that elmo may be in charge of "government efficiency".  he made twitter "more efficient" and it's been a disaster.  a common approach to software development is "innovate fast, break things, learn from the mistakes." (this is what he was referring to when he said that it will be rough in the short-term, i.e. until they figure out what does and doesn't work).  if the only impact of this approach is the inability to like a tweet, who cares.  but people are going to suffer if the headlong pursuit of "efficiency" results in VA health benefits being delayed, or food stamps not being distributed, or drugs being incorrectly approved, meat not being inspected, student loan applications not being approved, etc.  if you think government is inefficient now, just wait until they are critically understaffed...
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1175 on: November 14, 2024, 04:45:49 pm »
Yes Sweetcell but democrats had the government this past four years. If there is a need for cost cutting as you say why didn’t they?

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1176 on: November 14, 2024, 04:48:03 pm »
Did democrats run on making government more efficient?


I don’t remember that

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1177 on: November 14, 2024, 04:57:49 pm »
If they're serious about cutting federal expenses, fruit flies ain't gonna cut it.





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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1178 on: November 14, 2024, 04:58:30 pm »
RFK JR to HHS apparently



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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1179 on: November 14, 2024, 04:59:52 pm »
Yes Sweetcell but democrats had the government this past four years. If there is a need for cost cutting as you say why didn’t they?
Did democrats run on making government more efficient?

same answer to both: you can't run on everything, so they didn't hype government efficiency.  i don't think it's something that the average voter is pining for, but i could be wrong there.  the GOP did include cost-cutting in their promises, and they won, so who knows... but i'm not seeing a lot of public expressions of anticipation for efficiency - i'm seeing that folks are excited for lower costs at the grocery store, not fewer federal employees.
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1180 on: November 14, 2024, 05:02:50 pm »
Yes Sweetcell but democrats had the government this past four years. If there is a need for cost cutting as you say why didn’t they?
Did democrats run on making government more efficient?

same answer to both: you can't run on everything, so they didn't hype government efficiency.  i don't think it's something that the average voter is pining for, but i could be wrong there.  the GOP did include cost-cutting in their promises, and they won, so who knows... but i'm not seeing a lot of public expressions of anticipation for efficiency - i'm seeing that folks are excited for lower costs at the grocery store, not fewer federal employees.

Run on everything?

They ran on joy and the bad orange man.

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1181 on: November 14, 2024, 05:27:56 pm »
Is this the worst cabinet in history?

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1182 on: November 14, 2024, 05:31:19 pm »

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1183 on: November 14, 2024, 05:37:50 pm »
Is this the worst cabinet in history?

He’s doing this to fulfill promises to his inner circle. He doesn’t care if they’re confirmed or not. If any of them do pass confirmation, they won’t last a year.

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #1184 on: November 14, 2024, 06:02:15 pm »
Is this the worst cabinet in history?

He’s doing this to fulfill promises to his inner circle. He doesn’t care if they’re confirmed or not. If any of them do pass confirmation, they won’t last a year.
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