On the Eve of the new Season...

[godsshoeshine]

under these silly rules you'd included the brazilian full back twins too eventually

[Frank Gallagher]

under these silly rules you'd included the brazilian full back twins too eventually

Giggs-Scholes-Beckham-Neville x2-Ferdinand-Rooney

Huh??

Sorry, let me clarify for you.

Ryan Giggs - Paul Scholes - David Beckham - Gary Neville - Phil Neville - Rio Ferdinand - Wayne Rooney

There, they all have first and last names so can't be Brazillians (aka -  know who their father is). The wild card at OT is Hargreaves...would he be considered English,which he is, German were he played or Canadian were he lived?

Seriously, if it was my rules the players would have to be born in the home countries and been through the teams academy.

[godsshoeshine]

they came to united at age 17. in two years they will have trained in england for 3 years, thus counting toward the silly rule. what did i say that was so bad?

[vansmack]

Hargreaves play for United?  Wow...who knew?

[vansmack]

Seriously, if it was my rules the players would have to be born in the home countries and been through the teams academy.

This is the crux - you guys are debating two different things. 

Mankie - that's not the rule and why the Brazilians would count under these rules.

Shoeshine - Mankie is arguing for the other rule where they have to bleed the same color as Mankie.  Sort of.

[godsshoeshine]

to be honest i wasnt debating, i didnt realize we were talking about a nonexistant and possibly illegal rule

[Frank Gallagher]

Shoeshine, I wasn't really arguing with you, more disagreeing with the loopholed filled rule. Homegrown should be 'homegrown' as in BORN THERE.

Smackie - nice one...I think Bayern saw United coming on that deal huh? I hope he makes a full recovery because he's a good player in the United tradition. Carrick is still finding his way I think, which is not good as he's been with us for long enough now.

[vansmack]

Ataboy Ade:

Ade Get's 3 Match ban for Stomp

That puts him out of the Derby along with Tevez and Robinho.

[vansmack]

Saturday, Sept 19

7:45AM Burnley vs. Sunderland (ESPN2HD)
9:30am Arsenal vs Wigan (Set)
10:00am Aston Villa v Portsmouth (FSC)
12:30pm West Ham v Liverpool (FSC)
5:30pm Bolton v Stoke City (FSC)
6:45pm Hull vs Birmingham (Set)


Sunday Sept 20

8:25am Man Utd vs Man City (Set)
11:00am Chelsea v Tottenham (FSC)
1:00pm Wolves vs Fulham (Set)
7:00pm Everton v Blackburn (FSC)

[Frank Gallagher]

Ataboy Ade:

Ade Get's 3 Match ban for Stomp

That puts him out of the Derby along with Tevez and Robinho.

Tevez could be fit for Sunday....but this begs the question 'is he capable of playing 90 minutes?' He never managed it for United - yuk yuk yuk!!!

Awwww. hutch I'm sorry if I insulted your girlfriend. I'm only joking.


It will be ineresting to see what reception he gets from the United fans if he does take the field. The OT faithful almost always give former players a warm welcome but the way he pissed and moaned like the little bitch he is over his signing issues (which was due to his gangster of an agent) he may get some well deserved crap. Plus he sigined for the Moss Side Morons.

[hutch]

wow..what a game...

[vansmack]

8 AM in a day when I have a ton of sports to watch and I'm already exhausted....

[brennser]

wow..what a game...

what hutch said.....

[vansmack]

From @TheRealWayneRooney twitter account:

"I'd just like to take a moment and thank Newcastle for letting Michael go.  Thank you Newcastle United"

[godsshoeshine]

poor wayne-o's not the brightest