Killers jumping the shark?

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

So the Killers don't look the part, or they do look the part but it isn't part of who they are?
 
 If the latter, who are they and what part should they look? And why should looking the part matter anyway? I though rock and roll was about not having any rules?
 
 Now I'm thorougly confused.
 
 

Originally posted by bearman:
  Understanding the fact that rock'n'roll should be about how you present your music (i.e. well-written songs that shakes music to its core) and not about how you present a look while posing on the red carpet at the VMAs. All one needs to do is listen to a Stooges or early Ramones record. Sure, both bands looked the part, but it was part of who they were. There was some guts and balls to it. But ultimately, the music is what made them matter. Same thing for the Clash.

[bearman🐻]

And as for nkotb's post, the thing is that not enough younger people educate themselves on what rock'n'roll used to be. I used to laugh at the dinosaurs who turned their noses up at new wave in the 80's because it was too weak and there were synths, but lo and behold, I discovered a lot of the music they listened to and thought that it gave me a better perspective.
 
 All I'm saying is that the music industry is in huge trouble, and I'm just bummed by what passes for "good" these days. Not forgetting about the vitriol of older rock'n'roll makes you more careful to weed out the good from the bad being released these days, and I don't see that as a bad thing. The fact is that I don't have time to invest in a band like Clap Your Hands Say Yeah...I like the Talking Heads more, they did it better 25 years ago. So reinventing? Maybe in some cases, but I also hear a LOT of rehashing.

[sweetcell]

Killers soooo sold out. I mean I loved their first album until everyone else started liking it and the radio started playing their stuff. I hate them now.
 

so your opinion is dependent on that of others?  because the mainstream likes them, you can't?  how very indie(tm) of you.  i got into the first album, and i continue to like it despite what the radio thinks of it (i don't listen to radio that much, so it hasn't been overplayed for me).
 
 i find it funny that people hate certain bands or album because they've been overplayed - not just on the radio, but in their own houses, cars and ipods.  and why were they overplayed?  because in the beginning, they loved that band or album.  it's an over-reaction.
 
 i think reports of the killers' death are greatly exaggerated - let's wait for the album to drop, m'kay?

[ggw]

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[nkotb]

Just because you listened to every influential band that every mattered at age 6 doesn't mean these kids have the same access or interest that you do.  I grew up in Bumfucksville, and thanks to bands on the radio was able to keep digging deeper to find something I truly cared about.  It look awhile, and I'm still playing catch-up to a certain degree, but not everyone has an older brother or cool friends to push them along.  If they truly care, they'll find their way, and maybe a band like Panic! is the one that will open the door.
 
 Of course, that's if they even care to find out anything deeper.  Remember, music is a recreation for probably 90% of the world's population; they dont' give two shits about the lineage dating back 150 years that brought a band like Panic! to the forefront. They like the beat, or they like they lyrics, or (god forbid) they like the clothes.  Either way, who cares?  
 
 In the end, it's just rock 'n' roll.  And I think putting limits on it or what people should do at any point is bullshit.  Wearing a torn t-shirt and a mohawk is just as stiffling and just as uniform as wearing Victorian puffy shirts and eyeliner.
 
 

Originally posted by bearman:
  And as for nkotb's post, the thing is that not enough younger people educate themselves on what rock'n'roll used to be. I used to laugh at the dinosaurs who turned their noses up at new wave in the 80's because it was too weak and there were synths, but lo and behold, I discovered a lot of the music they listened to and thought that it gave me a better perspective.
 
 All I'm saying is that the music industry is in huge trouble, and I'm just bummed by what passes for "good" these days. Not forgetting about the vitriol of older rock'n'roll makes you more careful to weed out the good from the bad being released these days, and I don't see that as a bad thing. The fact is that I don't have time to invest in a band like Clap Your Hands Say Yeah...I like the Talking Heads more, they did it better 25 years ago. So reinventing? Maybe in some cases, but I also hear a LOT of rehashing.

[bearman🐻]

Ralph: Miss Hoover! There's a dog in the vent!
 
 Miss Hoover: Ralph, remember the time you saw Snagglepuss outside the window?
 
 Ralph: He was going to the bathroom!
 
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[bearman🐻]

I'm not trying to target the kids listening to crappy music...I just feel like they deserve better choices. Of course, nowadays with the internet, whatever music you choose is everywhere, as long as you have a computer and access to the internet. In the grand scheme of things, I do care about what happens to rock'n'roll because I think that we need something that is a bit more raw, honest, and dangerous.

[ggw]

Originally posted by bearman:
  I think that we need something that is a bit more raw, honest, and dangerous.

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[bearman🐻]

Oddly enough, I'm not a fan...but thanks ggw  

Originally posted by bearman:
 I think that we need something that is a bit more raw, honest, and dangerous.

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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giYa03n7Gnw

[helicon1]

Originally posted by le sonick:
  i dont get it, everyones saying this....is it really THAT different from their first album? The new song (When You Were Young) sounds just like everything off Hot Fuss to me.

What leads me to believe it sounds like Meatloaf is the orchestration and massive Brandon Flowers vocal vibrato; all of which sounds forced.... like Meatloaf.
 
 Remember, just my thought.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

You're a walking rock and roll chiche machine.
 
 Who needs something "dangerous"? Does dangerous make it better? Does "raw" make it better? Does being raw and dangerous equal being honest? What exactly is "dishonest" music?
 
 My favorite album of the year is by Neko Case. I find it neither raw, nor dangerous. I'm not sure if it's honest. And I don't freaking care if it is any of those things. I like how it sounds.
 
 
 

Originally posted by bearman:
  I'm not trying to target the kids listening to crappy music...I just feel like they deserve better choices. Of course, nowadays with the internet, whatever music you choose is everywhere, as long as you have a computer and access to the internet. In the grand scheme of things, I do care about what happens to rock'n'roll because I think that we need something that is a bit more raw, honest, and dangerous.

[sweetcell]

You're a walking rock and roll chiche machine.

"cliché"?
 
 
   

My favorite album of the year is by Neko Case. I find it neither raw, nor dangerous. I'm not sure if it's honest. And I don't freaking care if it is any of those things. I like how it sounds.
 

but what if they start playing it on the radio a lot?!?  then you're not allowed to like it!  

[ggw]

Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
 What exactly is "dishonest" music?
 

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[nkotb]

Maybe I'm looking too deep here, but I'm pretty sure that this post...
 
 

Originally posted by beedubyah:
  Killers soooo sold out. I mean I loved their first album until everyone else started liking it and the radio started playing their stuff. I hate them now.

...was full of sarcasm.
 
 But that might just be me.
 
 

Originally posted by sweetcell:
 but what if they start playing it on the radio a lot?!?  then you're not allowed to like it!