violence by the club AGAIN

[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
  What is I drove thru downtown DC blaring a racist music CD in my convertable..

Dupek, are you a fan of Prussian Blue?

[bnyced0]

Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Why do you all take his bait....Dupek I'm guessing, is white. Wether he's racist or not is neither here nor there. Regardless, what's the big deal?...if you don't like racism then don't be racist.
 
 It just pisses me off that white racists are censored and portrayed as some kind of outlaw yet it's socially acceptable to be black and racist, almost to the point of encouraged. If you don't think so just tune in to any black oriented radio or tv station and listen to the hate broadcast over our airwaves in the form off that disgusting rap and/or hip-hop music.
 
 I learned very quickly that in America if you think a white person is a moron then that's your opinion, but if you think a black person is a moron then you're a racist.

I think the distinction is that for the most part your so-called "black racist" have no power to have their hatred translate into detrimental consequences for their targets, where as the institutionalized racism practiced by "white racists", or virtually any other communities where stereotyping, isolation from others (asian, hispanic, semitic, etc.) has the organizational power to do real damage.  
 
 There could be an argument for the self-inflicted harm all racist experience from their limited world view, but to play the devils advocate, black racist are far more "moronic" than virtually all others because their ability to affect the changes they rage for are so limited and their mode of protest so self-destructive that it's extremely pathetic.  So while for the casual foreign observer the hyprocrisy of giving "black racist" a pass is troubling, it's not really a pass it's just so incosequential that it's not worth the time it would take to deplore it.  Is Dupek a racist, who knows?  A provocateur, certainly.  I find most of his comments slightly amusing because if he is a racist he sure is wasting a lot time on this board when he could be plotting how to eradicate the impure among us so it's kind of a relief.  Grand wizard he'll never be, though most of them were idiots too.  No offense intended.

[Frank Gallagher]

So you are agreeing that it's okay to be black and racist but not white and racist...hmmmmmm, interesting.

Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
  Dupek, are you a fan of Prussian Blue?

The smilie t-shirts are cute!  Plus the Olsen twins sandwich factor is a plus.

Originally posted by bnyced0:
  I think the distinction is that for the most part your so-called "black racist" have no power to have their hatred translate into detrimental consequences for their targets.
 

You are clearly a "Hot House" type of person...insulated from reality.  
 
 I regularly experience black on white racism at my job.

[Frank Gallagher]

I don't get it at work, but I do get it everyday going about my day.

O'Mankie, check out this 'rascist' artwork in Atlanta (video).

Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
  Dupek, the Henry David Thoreau of our time.

Iraqi terrorists recently put two children in a car to disguise it from being a suicide bomb car and then blow it up with the kids inside.
 
 Did you hear about that?  That happened a couple weeks ago so why wasn't it front page news to propagandize the naughty war so we could get all that great oil?  Isn't that how it's supposed to work in ditzy hipster land?  
 
 Unless suicide bombers show up at Indie concerts, arty hipsters will occupy themselves being arty and hip.

[bnyced0]

Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  I don't get it at work, but I do get it everyday going about my day.

Maybe we're getting into semantics here, so I'll try to be clearer.  Racism I suppose can be defined in various ways, from feeling your own race is superior to others (a traditional definition),  to disliking another race for whatever reason (what I seem to be seeing here.)  I don't really excuse any racists, but I'm far more concerned with the effects of racism, or racist activity in the "real world." Having Dupek spout his feelings about those unlike him, is not laudatory, but less concerning than the clown that doesn't say anything but refuses to hire, promote, or other activities based on race.  Same with loan officers, policemen, taxi drivers, etc.  Unless Dupek is an alias for say Karl Rove, he doesn't appear to have the power to take much action to forward his racist sentiments, if indeed he has any.  Just because some black guy is rude to you, or any person from any race treating you like shit for any reason including you not looking like them, is not cool but real effects are what keeps generations of blacks from becoming educated, a continuous cycle of poverty, crime, etc. based on decisions made by racists 200 years ago, and some 2 weeks ago.  Again I go back to the question of power, and the power to implement a racist agenda.

It's my personal experience that many, but not all (of course there are always real people who are exceptions) black women regard all white men they meet in person as The Devil incarnate (responsible not just for all of their own  personal troubles, but ALL of the world's problems, as well), and treat them as such.

[bnyced0]

[/qb][/QUOTE]You are clearly a "Hot House" type of person...insulated from reality.  
 
 I regularly experience black on white racism at my job. [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 Oh so you have a job, but the black man is keeping you down?  Reality is that you have the OPPORTUNITY to do just about anything you like, that's the difference.  Not to lump you in this categorization but it's usually those who are kept down by the same forces that effect black america that are so visceral against them. For instance, the poor whites in the south are some of the most virulent racists and supporters of the republican party.  And their ignorance is exploited for electoral gain, when they vote for politicians that inact policies that ensure their continued impoverishment and steady stream of fodder for war.  They have so much more in common with the blacks they detest, but will shortsightedly continue on a road to be an occupant of a body bag coming back from Iraq.  I'm veering across subjects here, but the point is your reality is pretty much in your own hands, minority, women, and few choice groups don't have that luxery so I'm sorry about the racism you are apparently experiencing but I don't think it meets the threshold to where I'll feel sorry for you.

[bnyced0]

Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
  It's my personal experience that many, but not all (of course there are always real people who are exceptions) black women regard all white men they meet in person as The Devil incarnate (responsible not just for all of their own  personal troubles, but ALL of the world's problems, as well), and treat them as such.

Just for shits and giggles, how many black women do you know?  And how many have expressed this feeling?  Even with your disclaimer, this is probably the silliest thing you've written whether joking or not you usually make some sense.  Because to have any validity not only would you have had to witness this at least thousands of times, but would have had to follow up to witness how these women actually acted afterwards.  Too much hyperbole, even for you.

Originally posted by bnyced0:
 
 Oh so you have a job, but the black man is keeping you down?  Reality is that you have the OPPORTUNITY to do just about anything you like,

I don't know what you are smoking, but give me some.
 
 I can do whatever I like??  
 
 Then I like having wild, coke fueled group sex with supermodels.  I like residing at 5 star hotels and living off of room service.  I like having a job where I don't have to deal with daily black on white racism.
 
 How about you, Fauntleroy?

Originally posted by bnyced0:
  Just for shits and giggles, how many black women do you know?  And how many have expressed this feeling?  Even with your disclaimer, this is probably the silliest thing you've written whether joking or not you usually make some sense.  Because to have any validity not only would you have had to witness this at least thousands of times, but would have had to follow up to witness how these women actually acted afterwards.  Too much hyperbole, even for you.

Frankly, you're full of it.
 
 I have met a lot of black women.  A lot.  Shit loads.  I deal with some of these very same black women on a daily basis.  Hell, most do not openly espouse this 'Devil Incarnate' talk to me, but one can easilly sense it lurking just under the surface by their demeanor and actions.
 
 And yes, I have worked with one black woman WHO DID openly express such views.  So there.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[nkotb]

If someone is in the position of implementing global racist policies, that makes them a super-villain of Lex Luther proportions.  
 
 Just because Dupek or his racist co-workers aren't in any position of power doesn't make it any more acceptable.  I certainly don't agree with a lot of his posts on race, but racism from any side is still bullshit.