Loved the Red Palace. It was sold out, but there was still room to stand, and you can see the stage. Went to RNR for a sold out show and it was the WORST ever. I thought it was bad when I saw Wilco at the Recher and couldn't see the band the whole time...the sound was at least great and I could still get to the bathroom. Forget getting to the bathroom or the bar at RNR and be prepared for assholes to yell at you because you're just trying to go pee....