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USA Today Names "Greatest" American Rock Bands
« on: July 06, 2005, 10:04:00 am »
And the greatest American rock band ever is ...
 
 I knew last week's column would spark heated debate among music aficionados, but I didn't realize just how intense it would get until the e-mail started pouring in â?? more e-mail, in fact, than I've received about any other column.
 And though the results were close, there could only be one winner. So, without further ado, I present your top pick for the greatest American rock band of all time:
 
 Pearl Jam.
 Yes, the Seattle rockers outranked powerhouses such as Van Halen (No. 3), The Doors (No. 9) and Nirvana, which landed at No. 18. At first, I was shocked by the choice (to be honest, I fully expected Aerosmith to win). But the more e-mail I read, the more it began to make sense.
 
 Why is Pearl Jam the greatest? Here's what you said:
 
 â?¢They've stayed true to themselves. "Instead of selling out with videos and constant press coverage, they pulled back at their height, and focused on the music," wrote Willie McNabb in El Dorado, Ark. "They belong up there with Neil Young, Zeppelin and The Beatles because they never compromised their integrity, which is really all any of us have."
 
 â?¢The music rocks. From Atlanta reader Tom Baker: "They've continually reshaped their sound, album after album, and are still making great, vital music 12+ years into their career. What else could you want?"
 
 â?¢Their records sell ... "... because they're good, not because they've been hyped to death by the media," McNabb added.
 
 â?¢There have been scores of imitators. "How many Pearl Jam/Eddie Vedder knockoffs have invaded rock radio since Ten?" asked Scott Jordan, another Atlanta fan.
 
 â?¢Their concerts are first-rate â?? and affordable. Jake Mohlman from Barrington, R.I., praised the band for keeping ticket prices low. "It's unique in an era when most artists gouge their fans to the limit," he wrote. "Likewise, releasing their shows on low-cost bootlegs brings a new dimension to seeing one of their shows."
 
 2. Aerosmith. "Their first hit was in 1973, and they're still selling out concerts," wrote Brooklyn Center, Minn., reader Darren Slack, who added that "fans don't boo them if they play stuff off their latest album" and they're "probably one of the first groups teenagers and parents both dig (and not in a Pat Boone kind of way, either)." Said David Matthews from Tampa: "No one died, no one got pâ??-ed and left the band, no one got kicked out and was replaced â?? and their ability to rock the house is still going strong."
 
 3. Van Halen. "How many bands from America have been as huge as Van Halen, then had to replace the lead singer and still be as popular, or even more popular, than before?" asked St. Louis reader Christopher Cokenour. "Van Halen's songwriting, whether with David Lee Roth or Sammy Hagar, took you to a place of happiness, never getting too heavy, never being too stupid." In addition, Patrick Beam in Little Rock was one of several readers to say "Eddie Van Halen influenced every guitarist that was alive or has been born since."
 
 4. The Eagles. "They win for longevity (I've got my ticket stub to their 1977 Hotel California tour), concert performances (also have ticket stubs from six 'farewell' concerts), they write their own songs and have tons of records sold," said longtime fan Sheri Broom from Savannah, Ga.
 
 5. Journey. "No contest!" said Deer Park, Texas, fan Bob Barney. (He went on to type the band's name 12 times using a large font and a spectrum of colors.) From Ronda Nelson in Terre Haute, Ind.: "They have been rockin' for over 30 years and are out on tour right now supporting a new CD."
 
 6. Guns N' Roses. "A lot of people have said that it's unbelievable that Welcome to the Jungle, Sweet Child O' Mine and Patience could have all come from the same band," wrote Laurie Hamilton from Bennington, Vt. Said Marlborough, Mass., reader Matthew Sychantha: "These guys practically set up the world, combining punk, thrash metal and hair metal in an interesting, twisted style."
 
 7. The Grateful Dead. "I feel a band's records are limiting; true musical genius comes through live music," wrote Carl Fuller, a Dead fan from Flagstaff, Ariz. "The Dead also created an entire tribal subculture in society. Few bands can claim this honor."
 
 8. Queensryche. Some reasons why, according to David Russell in Fishkill, N.Y.: "They've endured 25 years of the changing rock scene. They still tour all the time, selling out all the time and putting on an unbeatable live show. Their music has evolved with the times and has never failed to succeed. Their lyrics are constantly full of thought-provoking material and deep meaning. They are the best all around band ... period!"
 
 9. The Doors. "They had the complete package: musicianship, lyrics, songs and stage presence," wrote Michael Morris from Bourne, Mass. "But more importantly, their music has far transcended the band (even with the cult-psycho-martyr status of Jim Morrison) and stands the test of time. No one was doing, or will ever do, what The Doors did. They were the original alternative band, and that makes them the greatest American band."
 
 10. R.E.M. "Their ability to link lyrics with great depth to an alternative/folk/rock sound is unparalleled in the world of music," said Lebanon, Pa., fan Jay McCumber. "There is no one who sounds like R.E.M. except R.E.M. Automatic For The People is the greatest American rock record ever."
 
 11. The Allman Brothers Band and Fleetwood Mac (tie). "Duane Allman was one of the greatest guitar players that ever lived; a legitimate argument could even be made that he was the best," wrote Pittsburgh fan Ned Twyman. Jeff Sprankle from East Haddam, Conn., agreed, adding, "this band has had benders that have lasted longer than most bands' careers." As for the Mac, Debbie Gultice in Xenia, Ohio, said "harmonies between Stevie Nicks, Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie are haunting. And who has ever heard of a band with three songwriters who can create hits?"
 
 12. Metallica. From Patrick Dickens: "Although I don't like where heavy metal is today, Metallica essentially created an entire sub-genre of rock 'n' roll. Even if some won't give them credit for creating heavy metal, there is no doubt that they defined it and carried everybody else along on their backs."
 
 13. KISS. "Thirty-two years, millions of records, massive merchandising and a fan base that does not want them to stop touring, ever" qualify them as the best band, according to Christopher Burke in Colorado Springs. As for those live shows, Michael Gershe in Akron, Ohio, said they're "the most fun you can have for two hours with your clothes on."
 
 14. The Ramones. "Every band, American or otherwise, has been influenced by them in some fashion," said Raleigh reader Tom Maeser. From Matt Cox: "They didn't burn out, they didn't fade away, and they weren't a one-hit wonder. They were a band who played to make music and turn people on. I got turned on to the Ramones in the fifth grade, and today, 20 years later, they are still my favorite band, and my kids' favorite band."
 
 15. Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band and Creedence Clearwater Revival (tie). Steve Howell from Bear, Del., had a few things to say about E Street: "From a recorded album perspective, (their) stuff is indescribable. If you haven't seen them, don't walk, run, to get tickets the next time they are in town. The first thing you will think after the show is, 'I want to â?? no, I need to â?? go again tomorrow night.'" And Creedence? "They define good ol' American rock," wrote Andrew Neuburger in Olathe, Kan. "They have 20+ songs that get regular play on many different radio formats. A great combination of rock, country, R&B, rockabilly and swamp pop made their songs accessible to everyone."
 
 16. Dave Matthews Band and Lynyrd Skynyrd (tie). "DMB is the epitome of what American rock stands for: huge tours, loud rock and the working class," wrote Gabriel Wallis in Greenville, S.C. Mike Minnick in Morton, Pa., praised Skynyrd's "killer songs ... and they still tour in spite of losing so many members. And the music still sounds the same as when they were still complete."
 
 17. The Beach Boys. "The Beach boys, fueled by Brian Wilson, were the only band to compete with arguably England's best-ever rock band, The Beatles," wrote Milwaukee fan Nick Blavat. "Pet Sounds still pushes what music is, even by a 2005 standard. Brian Wilson's George Lucas-like re-touching of the Beach Boys' unreleased masterpiece, Smile, clearly shows their staying power and influence in American music."
 
 18. Nirvana. From Greg Mahoney, a college professor in Georgetown Township, Mich.: "The first time I heard Nevermind, to paraphrase Beck out of context, I knew things were gonna change, I could feel it. To bolster the point: I do most of my research in China, (and) during the nation's first Beer Festival, held in Shenzhen, a teenage cover band fronted by a punked-out Chinese girl ripped through Smells Like Teen Spirit with all the ferocity of Cobain and Co. Indeed, things had changed, and you could feel it."
 
 19. The Replacements. Among Bill Walsh's long list of reasons for picking the 'Mats, the Illinois reader said that "Tommy Stinson was 13 when they recorded their first album, Sorry Ma, Forgot To take Out the Trash, "the high school in Heathers is Westerberg High" and, finally, "What other band would have the cojones to name an album Let It Be, which is better than the Beatles' version?"
 
 20. Bon Jovi. Unfortunately, most voters chose not to elaborate why Jon, Richie and the gang were tops. I guess they wanted the music to speak for itself â?? or maybe they were just too busy rocking to type.
 
 http://www.usatoday.com/life/columnist/popcandy/2005-07-05-pop-candy_x.htm

Re: USA Today Names "Greatest" American Rock Bands
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2005, 10:07:00 am »
No Drive By Truckers? I am appalled.

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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2005, 10:21:00 am »
Top 20 is really a top 25.  If you have a tie, you skip the next position otherwise you could have the 25 bands at slot 14 and the 34 bands at slot 15...

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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2005, 10:34:00 am »
this list is about what i'd expect from a USA Today readership ... her personal picks trended more indie, of course ... i wonder if there are any rock crits out there who actually would come up with Top 20 list like this?  are there any mainstream butt-rock-loving critics?  i'd assume that if they were out there, they'd write for USA Today, but I guess not.
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2005, 10:35:00 am »
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
 20. Bon Jovi. Unfortunately, most voters chose not to elaborate why Jon, Richie and the gang were tops.
I believe that reason is the emotion of shame.

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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2005, 10:36:00 am »
Nice choice!
 
 As much as I love them...DBT needs to pass the test of time before being even considered.
 
 Queensryche tho?!
 
 I'd add this to the list of why PJ really are the best American Rock band right now:
 
 They take good care of their fans - ensuring they can get GREAT seats to their shows thru the fanclub. It's a case study on how it should work. Unlike the Rollling Stones 'fanclub' which charges $100 just so you can get access to buy their $400 tickets.
 
 Each gig is an event - likely to be 2.5 hrs plus - with a totally unpredictable setlist. Which you can then buy 30 minutes later & it sounds like it is an entire tours best of compilation.
 
 Unlike any large concert I've ever seen - their shows truly feel like a celebration: everyone standing, dancing, singing the entire time \nn/
 Check the acoustic disk for the Boston 3 show from 2 years ago. They were playing every song in their current repertoire during that 3 night Boston stand and they had to come out early and play an hour acoustic set that evening to accomplish this. Eddie actually begs the crowd to sit down - "it's going to be a long night. we're not going to do an acoustic version 'Blood' during this set"
 
 They are much better musicians now than they were in the 90's. Mike McCready is the most under-rated guitarist. And Matt Cameron is Godzilla on the skins.
 
 They always struggle to do the right thing - Ticketwanker battle - real benefit shows (see last year's stellar Benaroya set).
 
 That's all of my campaigning for now...

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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2005, 10:38:00 am »
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
  this list is about what i'd expect from a USA Today readership ... her personal picks trended more indie, of course ... i wonder if there are any rock crits out there who actually would come up with Top 20 list like this?  are there any mainstream butt-rock-loving critics?  i'd assume that if they were out there, they'd write for USA Today, but I guess not.
Who would you add? Seriously.
 And not the flavor of the month.
 
 I just went through my list of records, and can only find these that I would add, but I could easily make a counter argument that outside of my little world most of these do not meet the criteria of "Greatest" American Rock Band:
 
 Afghan Whigs
 Wilco
 Social Distortion
 Tom Petty & Heartbreakers - Should be on the list!
 Monster Magnet      ;)
 
 Ultimately what that lists suggests - proves? - is that America has a pretty shameful history of producing "Great" rock bands.

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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2005, 10:42:00 am »
i hate pearl jam, and his boycott of videos and ticketmaster.
 
 where are the roots?
 
 ah maybe one day

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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2005, 10:44:00 am »
The Smithereens the same lineup for 25 straight years, not many bands can claim that.
T.Rex

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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2005, 10:48:00 am »
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Originally posted by definitivedoodle:
  i hate pearl jam, and his boycott of videos and ticketmaster and his not coming over to my house to cook me dinner.
 
 

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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2005, 12:40:00 pm »
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Originally posted by The Artist Formerly Known As grotty:
  Who would you add? Seriously.
 And not the flavor of the month.
 
lists all come down to what you're looking to define ... if "greatest" means "most popular", then yes, this is a very good list ... i would tend to think of "greatest" as a mixture of influence, chops, and popularity
 
 the whole "band" thing is also really limiting, my list would be radically different if you could include solo artists, and some of my picks are kind of pushing that envelope (simon&garfunkel, petty/heartbreakers)
 
 god, i love having the summer off and being able to do this, here's my list:
 
 1)  the beach boys
 2)  creedence clearwater revival
 3)  simon & garfunkel*
 4)  the ramones
 5)  the byrds
 6)  REM
 7)  sly & the family stone
 8)  velvet underground
 9)  the allman brothers band
 10) talking heads
 11) big star
 12) boss/e street*
 13) sonic youth
 14) pixies
 15) pearl jam
 16) the doors
 17) petty/heartbreakers*
 18) guns n' roses
 19) pavement
 20) the replacements
 21) yo la tengo
 22) the beastie boys
 23) tool
 24) the cars
 25) superchunk
 
 * should really be in a solo artist list
 
 this isn't my "favorite" list, just the "greatest", as i defined it above
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2005, 12:41:00 pm »
well, i forgot nirvana, they'd go in 15-20 somewhere ... and i guess the dead have to go in the top 15 ...
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2005, 12:41:00 pm »
much much better.

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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2005, 01:11:00 pm »
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
  well, i forgot nirvana, they'd go in 1,500-2,000 somewhere ... and i guess the dead have to go in the top 15,000,000 ...
I couldn't agree more.

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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2005, 01:42:00 pm »
bleech to the beach boys... highly overrated IMHO... granted Brian Wilson is highly influential on many of the artists i dig, but the early stuff is pap and even "pet sounds" suffers from inane lyrics.  besides mike love has totally sullied the beach boy legacy with the endless summer tours complete with cheerleaders and john stamos on drums.
 
 and where is Love, Raspberries, MC5, The Stooges, Grand Funk Railroad, Husker Du, George Thurogood, ZZ Top on any of these lists?
T.Rex