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Guiny

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Re: no lolla..
« Reply #90 on: June 23, 2004, 12:36:00 pm »
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   But that is the point of a festival, from a bands perspective, right? Its a bands big chance to get fans of other bands to see them live and convert them into new fans.
So we must remember this for next year when everyone cries why their favorite bands are playing the street stage at the HFEstival. [/b]
well, thats going a bit far. he meant new bands, not Papa Roach and POD! [/b]
Modest Mouse and The Yeah Yeah Yeah's were there. They seem to be popular bands around here.

mankie

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Re: no lolla..
« Reply #91 on: June 23, 2004, 12:42:00 pm »
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  has anyone stated that the ticket sales were slow cause NO ONE LIKES MORRISSEY.
 
    sure he sold out shows in LA and NYC but those places do not reflect the entire country.  
 
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That has got to be the most stupid statement ever posted on this message board, Rhett's included.

godsshoeshine

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Re: no lolla..
« Reply #92 on: June 23, 2004, 12:45:00 pm »
plenty of people like morrisey. do they like him enough to take off work to see a truncated set? obviously not
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mankie

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Re: no lolla..
« Reply #93 on: June 23, 2004, 12:46:00 pm »
Evidently the Pixies reunion was the second coming of christ...so why the hell didn't they sellout lolla on their own?

sonickteam2

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Re: no lolla..
« Reply #94 on: June 23, 2004, 12:47:00 pm »
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  has anyone stated that the ticket sales were slow cause NO ONE LIKES MORRISSEY.
 
    sure he sold out shows in LA and NYC but those places do not reflect the entire country.  
 
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That has got to be the most stupid statement ever posted on this message board, Rhett's included. [/b]
ok, some people still like him, but only old farts like you. and they dont want to sit at dirty pavilions and have to wait through other bands and what not.
 
     Constitution Hall is the place for Morrissey.
 
 bollocks to you.

Guiny

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Re: no lolla..
« Reply #95 on: June 23, 2004, 12:50:00 pm »
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Constitution Hall is the place for Morrissey.[/b]
More like some small smokey bar on Wilson BLVD. But since I've never seen him, I'd probably go.

vansmack

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Re: no lolla..
« Reply #96 on: June 23, 2004, 01:04:00 pm »
I'm a little bit surprised that no one (including Seth in his quotes in the paper, although I know he has to be couth for the papers and not bite the feeders in public) is accusing Lollapalooza of biting off more than it could chew.
 
 This tour was dormant for six years, they have one good comeback year, and then they think they can bring Caochella to your doorstep and people will go?  I mean, two days?  This was the first year Coachella even sold out both days, and it took people to travel from all over the America's to sell it out and a Pixies reunion (without the news of a tour to follow at the time of ticket sales).
 
 If I'm not mistaken, even the radio shows didn't do two day shows this year.  I know KROQ only did a one day show.
 
 So to blame the type of music the bands play is one thing, but at some point the organizers have to look at themselves and say, "hey, we made a mistake and thought we could do more than we were able to do."
 
 I think paring down the bands and doing a one day show probably would have been the way to go (I know, hindsight is 20-20).  But even when alternative rock was at its peak, the Pearl Jam/Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins/Beastie Boys Lolla's were only one day affairs.  
 
 So I think it's a bit unfair to only blame the type of music, though I am selling all my indie CDs to Amoeba right now and buying the billboard top 100 so this doesn't happen to me again.
 
 What's that you say, Britney cancelled her tour too?  When did she become alternative?
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mankie

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Re: no lolla..
« Reply #97 on: June 23, 2004, 01:11:00 pm »
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  has anyone stated that the ticket sales were slow cause NO ONE LIKES MORRISSEY.
 
    sure he sold out shows in LA and NYC but those places do not reflect the entire country.  
 
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That has got to be the most stupid statement ever posted on this message board, Rhett's included. [/b]
ok, some people still like him, but only old farts like you. and they dont want to sit at dirty pavilions and have to wait through other bands and what not.
 
     Constitution Hall is the place for Morrissey.
 
 bollocks to you. [/b]
Why are people like you trying to blame the whole failure of LL on Moz? I'm not defending him at all, but for crying out loud, all these other AWSOME BANDS THAT RAWK DUDE... that were in the lineup are not selling tickets either.
 
 ...and if Moz sells out LA and NY and is a huge draw for Glastonbury, then maybe the 'rest of the country' needs to realize there's a reason why.

eltee

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Re: no lolla..
« Reply #98 on: June 23, 2004, 01:19:00 pm »
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  has anyone stated that the ticket sales were slow cause NO ONE LIKES MORRISSEY.
 
    sure he sold out shows in LA and NYC but those places do not reflect the entire country.  
 
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That has got to be the most stupid statement ever posted on this message board, Rhett's included. [/b]
ok, some people still like him, but only old farts like you. and they dont want to sit at dirty pavilions and have to wait through other bands and what not.
 
     Constitution Hall is the place for Morrissey.
 
 bollocks to you. [/b]
I doubt ONE act caused everyone to refrain from buying a ticket and thus cancelling the tour. However, I am an old fart. I couldn't purchase a ticket until I could confirm the day off from work. It sucks to be an adult.
 
 Separately, it seems that people take their time to buy tickets around here (the old farts). I know they mention sales lacking in other cities, but I wonder if this is a trend in this area?

scumpond

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« Reply #99 on: June 23, 2004, 01:22:00 pm »
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  Evidently the Pixies reunion was the second coming of christ...so why the hell didn't they sellout lolla on their own?
Pixies were just in NYC, and that show was selling well.  
 
 This tour did not work because there was no really strong headliner, period.  There is not a problem with attendance at "Alternative" shows generally (just look at all of the sold out shows at the 9:30), there is a problem with weak line-ups and week-day/work-day festivals.

markie

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Re: no lolla..
« Reply #100 on: June 23, 2004, 01:24:00 pm »
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 ...and if Moz sells out LA and NY and is a huge draw for Glastonbury, then maybe the 'rest of the country' needs to realize there's a reason why.
There are lots of homosexuals, or abstainees as Morrisseys likes to be known, in all of those places?

mankie

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« Reply #101 on: June 23, 2004, 01:25:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
  Evidently the Pixies reunion was the second coming of christ...so why the hell didn't they sellout lolla on their own?
Pixies were just in NYC, and that show was selling well.  
 
 This tour did not work because there was no really strong headliner, period.  There is not a problem with attendance at "Alternative" shows generally (just look at all of the sold out shows at the 9:30), there is a problem with weak line-ups and week-day/work-day festivals. [/b]
Excuse me....selling out in NYC, or LA for that matter, doesn't mean shit...does it Sonick?

Dr. Anton Phibes

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Re: no lolla..
« Reply #102 on: June 23, 2004, 01:28:00 pm »
[/qb][/QUOTE]I doubt ONE act caused everyone to refrain from buying a ticket and thus cancelling the tour. However, I am an old fart. I couldn't purchase a ticket until I could confirm the day off from work. It sucks to be an adult.
 
 Separately, it seems that people take their time to buy tickets around here (the old farts). I know they mention sales lacking in other cities, but I wonder if this is a trend in this area? [/QB][/QUOTE
 
 >>>>>> This mentions that "trend"
 http://www.blacktable.com/gallagher040623.htm

mankie

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Re: no lolla..
« Reply #103 on: June 23, 2004, 01:28:00 pm »
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 ...and if Moz sells out LA and NY and is a huge draw for Glastonbury, then maybe the 'rest of the country' needs to realize there's a reason why.
There are lots of homosexuals, or abstainees as Morrisseys likes to be known, in all of those places? [/b]
Not meaning to correct you in front of your friends, but Moz's most recent fan base has grown out of the Mexican community. I don't think he's ever been that big a draw with the gay crowd. Well, apart from that time you jumped on stage to hug him.

markie

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Re: no lolla..
« Reply #104 on: June 23, 2004, 01:28:00 pm »
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 Excuse me....selling out in NYC, or LA for that matter, doesn't mean shit...does it Sonick?
I think the organisers were inferring that the pixies Lolla was selling well becausese the pixies were going. Do you think if the pixies were doing all the dates Lolla might have sold more tickets?