no lolla..

[Dr. Anton Phibes]

Originally posted by mark e smith:
   

Originally posted by Bollocks:
 Excuse me....selling out in NYC, or LA for that matter, doesn't mean shit...does it Sonick?

I think the organisers were inferring that the pixies Lolla was selling well becausese the pixies were going. Do you think if the pixies were doing all the dates Lolla might have sold more tickets? [/b]

>>>That's a true statement.....I think sales would have been up.....but maybe not to the break even point even with them on the tour...

[markie]

Originally posted by Bollocks:
  but Moz's most recent fan base has grown out of the Mexican community

Yeah, your right. The Spanish orientated music store on Columbia, in Adams Morgan, is plastered with pictues of the big quiffed one. I here you are the quarry being blasted from its giant speakers all the time.  :roll:

[llauraann]

Originally posted by mark e smith:
 [QB] There were plenty of other acts I was interested in seeing...
 
 Flaming lips, Von Bodies, BRMC, elbow, Sparta.
 
 well, good to know sparta had dropped the tour. they picked up the incubus tour. maybe not a favorite move for fans, but smart in their mind.

[eltee]

Originally posted by The O' Rotten Factor:
 

I doubt ONE act caused everyone to refrain from buying a ticket and thus cancelling the tour. However, I am an old fart. I couldn't purchase a ticket until I could confirm the day off from work. It sucks to be an adult.
 
 Separately, it seems that people take their time to buy tickets around here (the old farts). I know they mention sales lacking in other cities, but I wonder if this is a trend in this area? [/QB][/QUOTE
 
 >>>>>> This mentions that "trend"
  http://www.blacktable.com/gallagher040623.htm [/QB][/QUOTE]Yeah, I read that article earlier. Thanks for posting. I could relate to some of what she said. I have noted this "trend" when I've had to work shows...just wondered if others noted the same...I dunno, it's all a tough call. In this area, it's surprising that shows during the week sell out, then come the weekend, I'm standing with crickets. I guess that people go away for the weekend or catch up w/ friends and family, thus deciding on shows at the last minute.

[Guiny]

Originally posted by Bollocks:
 ...and if Moz sells out LA and NY and is a huge draw for Glastonbury, then maybe the 'rest of the country' needs to realize there's a reason why. [/QB]

I'm sure Blink 182 and Creed (When they were still together) sold out shows in LA and NYC also, does that mean the whole country needs to realize there's a reason why with them also? GOD I hope not!!!!!!!!!!

[kosmo vinyl]

IMHO the weak headliner was The String Cheese Incident as their fans are the most likely to be the ones disappointed with a shorten set and probably could give a rats asre about the rest of day two.  It's also a case of bad-timing seeing as Phish is wrapping up their last dates as a band at the same of the dc dates.
 
 So they probably need some of the caliber of the Foo Fighters or Pixies as the headliner.  The Stooges would have been a coup as well.

[keithstg]

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  Have I shared with my fellow boardies the Modest Mouse curse?
 
 Here's how it goes:  I'm destined to NEVER see Modest Mouse.
 
 I had tix for the nYC show earlier this year, but was too sleepy to do the one night drive, and sold 'em under the assumption they'd play DC.  Which they didn't do, opting for a crappy Florida tour instead.
 
 Then they played HFS, which is a definite NO to me, plus, I thought I'd see them at Lolla.
 
 Then they cancelled Lolla.
 
 I'd buy tickets for Austin City Limits, but hell, with my track record, it just ain't happening.

DRIVE? Wouldn't it be less selfish and evil to take the train?

[sonickteam2]

yes, to respond to mankie and a lot of others,
 
   what i meant by Morrissey (i refuse to call him Moz, cause why do you do that?) being the big part of Lolla failure is cause HE is the headliner!!!!!  If Radiohead wasnt playing thier ONLY US appearance in 2004 the same night as the Pixies reunion with no clear tour in site (as vansmack stated) Coachella wouldnt have sold out.
 
   point is , Lollapalooza gets a more fitting festival headliner, it will have a chance.

[jkeisenh]

Originally posted by keithstg:
 

DRIVE? Wouldn't it be less selfish and evil to take the train? [/b]

You're right, thank you very much for pointing this out.  But it was determined that el coche was the only way to get from work (5pm) to the show and then back to work again the next morning-- based on review of amtrak and bus schedules.
 
 but note, didn't end up doing the drive anyway

[bearman🐻]

I guess my question is, then why does something like Coachella (not cheap) draw people from all over the place? Lollapalooza had a pretty phenomenal line-up...not as big as Coachella, but hey, I thought it was pretty decent. It was hard to say no to Lolla's ticket price. I know that some of us are getting older, but it really makes me question then, what are the people who listened to Pearl Jam and Nirvana listening to now? Are they listening to music at all? I actually know a lot of people that are just not as into music now compared to when they were younger, but it makes me question if they were ever passionate about it to begin with. It's tough to keep up sometimes with a lot of the newer bands, it takes work. I dunno. I scratch my head because clearly there is an audience out there. When you have 50,000 people singing along to the Pixies, and 12 years ago you would have NEVER have gotten that number, I guess it makes me question Seth's comments a little bit. A band like Radiohead, which sells out 20,000 seat arenas in the U.S. is hardly accessible. So there is an audience there. I would venture to guess that the average Radiohead fan owns at least one record by the Smiths, Sonic Youth, PJ Harvey, or the Flaming Lips...and a very good chance they own a lot more. Anyway, I guess I have a lot of unanswered questions. There is more to the Lolla thing than people just not being into alternative music anymore...maybe we're just getting older and we've already seen those bands enough (I've seen Morrissey twice, Sonic Youth about 8 times, and PJ Harvey 3 times), and the thought of an all-day outdoor venue isn't conducive to bands like Sonic Youth and PJ Harvey. Perhaps we'd rather see them in a more intimate venue where we can drink our beers, smoke and view them in the kind of setting we're happier in. Who knows.

[markie]

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  work again the next morning

You work?
 
 You pathetic proletariat pawn. If you grew all your own produce and lived in a commune you could have walked to the show and back.

[markie]

Originally posted by bunnyman:
  I guess my question is, then why does something like Coachella (not cheap) draw people from all over the place?  

It had radiohead.
 
 It was a one off show.
 
 Vs
 
 No big name multi-platinum selling headliner
 
 A series of how many shows? 6 or 8?
 
 Obviously people travelled coast to coast for coachella, there was no need to do that for lolla.

[mankie]

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
   

Originally posted by keithstg:
 

DRIVE? Wouldn't it be less selfish and evil to take the train? [/b]

You're right, thank you very much for pointing this out.  But it was determined that el coche was the only way to get from work (5pm) to the show and then back to work again the next morning-- based on review of amtrak and bus schedules.
 
 but note, didn't end up doing the drive anyway [/b]

And it better be a wind driven train at that!

[ggw]

I would generally agree that a disaffected Mancunian crooner wouldn't sell well in Middle America, but then a funny thing happened.  
 
 Coming back to the office this afternoon, I passed a minivan with Tennessee plates and a bumper sticker that said "WWMD?" and had a picture of the Miserable One.  
 
 Who knew?

[markie]

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
 
 
 Coming back to the office this afternoon, I passed a minivan with Tennessee plates and a bumper sticker that said "WWMD?" and had a picture of the Miserable One.  
 
 Who knew?

Are you really sure it wasnt a picture of Elvis?