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Re: Wedding Crashers
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2005, 02:05:00 pm »
So does Flawd.
 
 
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Re: Wedding Crashers
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2005, 02:08:00 pm »
Thank god the world has Rhett to try and keep entertainment respectable.

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Re: Wedding Crashers
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2005, 03:43:00 pm »
And here's another reason I really like "Wedding Crashers" -- "Old School" as well -- they are rated R comedies that are raunchy and adult-oriented, but not 'raunchy' because of disgustingly graphic bathroom humor and stunts.  No one ate/drank poo, swallowed a fellow's mistakenly shot "manjuice" or got caught in a VW bug with someone struck with intolerable flatulance.
 
 Thanks, Owen, Vince, Dave, Steve and Bob.
 
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 "Wedding Crashers"

 
 Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn whoop it up in this Hollywood comedy that's actually -- wowee! -- original and funny.
 
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 July 15, 2005  |  So many comedies today feel as if they've been made by tribunal, groups of elders who know what's best for us and who pretend to think they know what we'll find funny. But "Wedding Crashers" -- in which Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn play not-quite-grown-ups who dive-bomb their way into weddings to which they haven't been invited, chiefly to pick up women -- is that rare contemporary mainstream comedy that seems to have been made without parental supervision. The jokes sizzle and fly, with reckless disregard for propriety or for what the audience will "get." That's not to say the director, David Dobkin, or the writers, Steve Faber and Bob Fisher, are conspicuously trying to go over people's heads. But let's put it this way: I don't know about you, but I can't remember the last time I saw a touch-football sequence scored to the Dave Brubeck Quartet's "Blue Rondo A La Turk," a bit of music that used to be a staple in the homes of middlebrow American intellectuals, back when there actually used to be middlebrow American intellectuals.
 
 The sequence might have just as easily used some pleasing blur of classic pop, just because that's what's usually done, and why mess with formula? But someone, somewhere, took the scenic, crooked road instead of the ho-hum thruway. "Wedding Crashers" isn't a perfect comedy: There's a great deal of trimmable flab in its last third or so, and the picture's redemptive ending smells vaguely of pressed luncheon meat. But for the most part, the movie has a loose-jointed, crazy-ass gracefulness. And even though it's conventional in the broad sense, it still vibrates with a sense of risk-taking.
 
 Vaughn and Wilson play longtime best friends -- their names are Jeremy and John, respectively -- who are also partners in a Washington divorce-mediation firm. They're happily single, 30-ish guys who, during "wedding season," make lists of the nuptials they're going to crash, determining ahead of time what roles and pseudonyms they're going to adopt and following an elaborate system of rules. (They keep a couple of Purple Heart medals handy in case they're faced with a cash bar; who'd hesitate to stand a wounded vet a drink?) Their chief goal is to meet and sleep with as many women as possible. Dobkin gets the point across with an exhilarating montage showing Jeremy and John crashing multiple weddings of various ethnicities, but all of which, at one point or another, feature that perennial choice of wedding DJs, the Isley Brothers' "Shout!" And the sequence is cut in a rapid-fire spiral so we see John and Jeremy swinging their dates blissfully around the dance floor one second, and bouncing, with disreputable relish, into bed with them the next.
 
 But John and Jeremy's meticulous routine is shaken when John is suddenly struck by the notion that what they're doing isn't quite right: "Do you think we're being a little -- sleazy? Well, maybe that's not the right word," he suggests tentatively to Jeremy, in a post-wedding-season bout of soul-searching. His doubts are intensified when, at Jeremy's urging, the two crash "the Kentucky Derby of weddings," hosted by the U.S. Treasury secretary (played, with muted mischievousness, by Christopher Walken), and John falls in love with one of the bridesmaids (played by the flirtatiously game Rachel McAdams).
 
 The plot mechanics of "Wedding Crashers" aren't particularly important. What is significant is the way Dobkin and the screenwriters treat their characters. Only squares would want to see John and Jeremy undergo any sort of phony transformation (and, admittedly, the ending of "Wedding Crashers" flirts dangerously close to that). But while the movie revels in John and Jeremy's outlandish behavior, it also recognizes that they're rapidly nearing the age when it will no longer be considered cute.
 
 More than once John mentions the fact that he and Jeremy are just enjoying themselves while they're young -- and there's always somebody nearby to remind them that they're not that young. The movie doesn't want to punish its characters for having a good time; it simply realizes that good comedy often has a bittersweet edge. Neither Vaughn, with his cranky prizefighter's jaw, nor Wilson, with his endless-summer smile, looks old by any stretch of the imagination. But now that you mention it, maybe there are a few little sun wrinkles around John's eyes, or a trace of genuine weariness in Jeremy's nervous, poker-face twinkle. John and Jeremy are the butt of the movie's jokes as well as its heroes. As much as we'd like to see them get away with these kinds of shenanigans forever, the movie is funny precisely because we know they can't.
 
 "Wedding Crashers" hooks you in its first 20 minutes. Dobkin (who previously directed the black comedy "Clay Pigeons," as well as the absurdly delightful "Shanghai Knights") doesn't make the mistake of trying to ease us into comedy mode; he pitches us into it head-first, which is a lot more fun. He makes the most of Vaughn and Wilson's web-slinging dialogue. Their dueling taunts -- "Oh, please don't take a turn to Negative Town!" is met with "Grow up, Peter Pan! Count Chocula!" -- take on a kind of contrapuntal schoolyard rhythm.
 
 Even beyond that, though, Dobkin clues us in early on that John and Jeremy don't crash weddings just for the babes. We see them march into a Jewish wedding, jaunty in their yarmulkes, or cutting the rug with a bunch of rowdy Irishmen. They have much more fun at these alleged celebrations than most of the folks who have actually been invited, taking obvious pleasure in their instantaneous ability to fit in. They're wildly canny, too: Jeremy makes balloon animals for the kiddies, always making sure the most attractive single women are near enough to notice what a way he has with the little squirts. John dances with ancient dames and awkward 7-year-old flower girls alike. And both yuk it up with the old-timers as if they were secretly -- or, more likely, sincerely -- having a blast.
 
 It doesn't hurt that both Vaughn and Wilson are extremely charismatic actors, albeit in completely opposite ways. Wilson, the drawling Don Juan, wears his easy charm like a broken-in suede jacket. He's seductively naughty, surreptitiously dripping Visine into his eyes so a comely cutie will think that a couple of total strangers' vows have moved him to tears. Vaughn is a trickier case, and he's also Wilson's perfect foil. While Wilson keeps everything loose, with Vaughn, the gags are locked up tight and parceled out in little paranoid bursts.
 
 Vaughn isn't the kind of comic actor you immediately and comfortably give yourself over to: He gets laughs by keeping us a little tense -- there's something about him that makes us wonder if he's going to blow at any minute. He has complete control of his material here, and his performance has a nervy, percolating energy. He knows how to use his sheer stature as part of the joke: Clasping a petite conquest on the dance floor, he murmurs, "I feel so tiny in your arms," and his deadpan audacity is so big it practically explodes the confines of the screen.
 
 I know lots of moviegoers who have turned against Hollywood "product," for reasons that are, sadly, perfectly justifiable. I also know other moviegoers (and, unfortunately, plenty of critics) who believe Hollywood movies should be graded on the curve: We shouldn't scrutinize them too carefully or be so ridiculous as to expect them to be remotely intelligent or capable of subtlety. But I think "Wedding Crashers" -- whatever its flaws may be -- should at least makes us define what we mean when we talk about Hollywood product.
 
 The picture is highly commercial in the sense that it will play at the local multiplex, and lots of people are likely to flock to it in its first weekend, at least: It's the kind of picture you want to see with a bunch of people on a Friday night, to be part of a crowd of individuals who will all laugh at the same silly things. But unlike so many other recent (or upcoming) Hollywood products, it was made from an original screenplay (Faber and Fisher previously wrote for TV sitcoms); it didn't come from a source that audiences are already familiar with, like an old television show or a previous movie. "Wedding Crashers" may be the most optimistic Hollywood comedy of the year, because it restores at least some dim hope that directors, writers and actors with actual brains in their heads can somehow triumph over unimaginative studio execs. In that way, "Wedding Crashers" isn't just the life of the party, but its pulse.
 
 
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 About the writer
 Stephanie Zacharek is a senior writer for Salon Arts & Entertainment.

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Re: Wedding Crashers
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2005, 03:49:00 pm »
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  "Old School" as well
it makes me cry that so many people like this movie

Re: Wedding Crashers
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2005, 03:55:00 pm »
This reviewer liked one of them but not the other. Go figure.
 
 
 Wedding Crashers: Comedy. Starring Owen Wilson, Vince Vaughn, Rachel McAdams and Christopher Walken. Directed by David Dobkin. (R. 119 minutes. At Bay Area theaters.)
 
 
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 The idea behind "Wedding Crashers" -- Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn as two friends who go to strangers' nuptials and lie to score with women -- is can't-miss hilarious. This project could have gotten a studio green light based on four words scrawled on the back of a cocktail napkin: Vince, Owen, weddings, breasts.
 Unfortunately, the inspired concept is coupled with weak screenwriting, and the movie turns out to be much more fun to think about than it is to watch. Despite sincere efforts from the actors, an R rating that frees up the language and a Will Ferrell cameo that takes only five minutes to double the movie's laugh count, the film's pleasures are greatly outnumbered by its failed expectations.
 
 "Wedding Crashers" begins so abruptly, with such a clumsy setup, that it feels like a sequel. After an amusing scene where John (Wilson) and Jeremy (Vaughn) are introduced as divorce mediators, director David Dobkin jumps straight to a montage, where the crashers tear up the dance floor, eat too much food and seduce women to the wedding party song "Shout." By the end of the song, John and Jeremy's personalities are still indistinguishable, other than Jeremy's revolting tendency to stuff his face with cake.
 
 Vaughn's overflowing mouth of frosting marks the beginning of the movie's frustrations. Unlike the reality-disregarding universes of "Starsky and Hutch" starring Wilson and "Old School" starring Vaughn, "Wedding Crashers" takes itself very seriously as a romantic comedy. Yet the movie never adequately explains how John and Jeremy avoid getting discovered and thrown out on the street after they cut the cake, openly make out with bridesmaids and even give drunken toasts. Seventeen weddings and nobody thought to check the seating chart?
 
 The movie's dramatic intentions completely fall apart when John falls for Claire (Rachel McAdams) and ends up on a "Meet the Fockers"-style weekend with her eccentric family, complete with a violent football game involving Claire's too-evil-to-be-credible fiance. From this point, Dobkin bathes Wilson and McAdams in the flattering light, melodic string-laden musical score and cute cat-and-mouse romance games of a Jennifer Lopez movie -- including a bike ride through a meadow that isn't played for laughs.
 
 Throughout the movie, Wilson and Vaughn struggle against the derivative script of newcomers Steve Faber and Bob Fisher. About half the scenes sound like the dialogue was written by someone other than the characters, and they are the worst parts of the movie. "Sarah, I feel like I don't even know you," John says to a conquest he just slept with. When she responds "My name is Vivian," who in the audience didn't see it coming? That's the most memorable in a checklist of recycled gags from the "Porky's" era, including a foul- mouthed grandmother, an adulterously hot mother-in-law and the logically questionable use of eye drops as a diuretic to momentarily sideline a potential suitor.
 
 During the rest of the film, Vaughn and Wilson seem to be ad-libbing, and these fast-talking scenes work the best. Vaughn's patter is better in small doses, but with Claire's crazy sister as a love interest, he has a lot more to work with than Wilson. Each gets a funny scene involving kids and balloon animals. And while the actors aren't very convincing as louses who fall for their intended prey, at least they have chemistry with each other.
 
 The movie ends strong, in part because of the welcome presence of Ferrell as another crasher. He momentarily takes the humor totally off the rails, where it should have been in the first place.
 
 Farrell is really funny but mostly serves to remind viewers that the five minutes of wedding footage in "Old School" were better than the 50 minutes in "Wedding Crashers." And you would never catch Frank the Tank riding his bicycle through a meadow with a love interest. At least not with his clothes on.
 
 -- Advisory: Nudity, profanity, sex and some violence, including scenes involving a psychotic bridesmaid that may be traumatic for guys who have had a lot of crazy girlfriends.
 
 
 
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Re: Wedding Crashers
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2005, 04:01:00 pm »
Where is that review from, Rhett?
 
 I agree on the foul-mouthed grandma and the evil fiance, though the football scene with him is hysterical (though an easy joke), mostly because of Vaughn.

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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2005, 04:04:00 pm »
Vansmack's own San Francisco Chronicle.
 
 
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  Where is that review from, Rhett?
 
 I agree on the foul-mouthed grandma and the evil fiance, though the football scene with him is hysterical (though an easy joke), mostly because of Vaughn.

Re: Wedding Crashers
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2005, 04:06:00 pm »
So I gotta ask...was there a nude scene featuring Jane Seymour? That would make it worth renting the dvd.

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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2005, 05:00:00 pm »
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  So I gotta ask...was there a nude scene featuring Jane Seymour? That would make it worth renting the dvd.
Not really...you can call it a nude scene, but no Seymour nipple.

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Re: Wedding Crashers
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2005, 05:59:00 pm »
Like the rest of you, I loved the movie. Laughed all the way through. Vince's monologue about dating at the beginning was hilarious. And then it just continued on from there...

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« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2005, 07:24:00 pm »
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  Vansmack's own San Francisco Chronicle.
 
 
Only the Chronicle could claim that a movie like "Wedding Crashers" wasn't funny enough.
 
 We're such perfectionists out here....
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« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2005, 07:27:00 pm »
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  So does Flawd.
I'm not surprised.  While sometimes I find it a bit disturbing, most of the time I find flawd quite humerous.
 
 You're just jealous that he's funnier than you without any effort.
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Re: Wedding Crashers
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2005, 08:35:00 am »
Interesting tidbit from Entertainment Weekly -- Owen was paid $10 million and Vince $3 million for the movie.  Deals were made after Owen is coming off Armageddon, Shanghai Noon and Shanghai Knights, Meet the Parents and an oscar nod for screenwriting The Royal Tenenbaums.
 
 Vince is coming off of Return to Paradise, Clay Pigeons and Psycho (and pre-release of Dodgeball or Old School).

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Re: Wedding Crashers
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2005, 10:59:00 am »
There's little doubt that Swingers was Vince Vaughn's Brady Andersonesque 50 HR Season.
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Re: Wedding Crashers
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2005, 11:06:00 am »
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  There's little doubt that Swingers was Vince Vaughn's Brady Andersonesque 50 HR Season.
Is that Mandarin or Cantonese you are speaking?