We need a baseball thread dont we?

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  paging don denkinger. . .

not even close, was the world series and the Cardinals had the lead at the time, and Orta was clearly out while I think whether or not the ball hit the ground is debateable
 
 but it is still an awful call because of the way the ump handled it

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by p011@rd:
   

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  paging don denkinger. . .

not even close, was the world series and the Cardinals had the lead at the time, and Orta was clearly out while I think whether or not the ball hit the ground is debateable
 
 but it is still an awful call because of the way the ump handled it [/b]

well, i think the whole point of this is that the ump called the batter out, then said he didn't.
 
 i was just trying to rile the cardinal fan.    

[vansmack]

Anytime an umpire/referee/official shows up at a press conference with a guy in a trenchcoat, you can bet a lie is about to perpetrated.
 
 Where's the accountability?  Why can't they just admit they were wrong and blew the call?

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by vansmack:
  Anytime an umpire/referee/official shows up at a press conference with a guy in a trenchcoat, you can bet a lie is about to perpetrated.
 
 Where's the accountability?  Why can't they just admit they were wrong and blew the call?

i really just dont get why they dont like to ask for help, there are so many times where they could just ask an ump who had a better view but they wont
 
 who was the guy in the trenchcoat anyway, i only saw part of it

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by p011@rd:
  i really just dont get why they dont like to ask for help, there are so many times where they could just ask an ump who had a better view but they wont

i think that baseball umps, on the whole, do a good job of coming together and figuring it out.  however, in this instance, no one could possibly have a good view of whether or not the ball hit the dirt.  in any event, to me, and as smackie pointed out about his "style," eddings called him out, then said he didn't.  this is a semioticians dream.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by p011@rd:
  who was the guy in the trenchcoat anyway, i only saw part of it

Umpire Supervisor Rich Reiker

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by vansmack:
  Having now watched the entire game over charting the umpires patterns for calling a strike out:

baseball tonight did a good look at it ... i think the fist pump wasn't just his "mechanics" for calling a third strike, he was calling the batter out ... he just got flustered when AJ ran down to first and let the play continue ... put it simply, the umpire had no balls to control the game and let the players run all over him
 
 i think you got hornswaggled

[Guiny]

Originally posted by p011@rd:
 

i really just dont get why they dont like to ask for help, there are so many times where they could just ask an ump who had a better view but they wont[/b]

Actually, after about 3 hours of arguing, the home plate umpire did ask the third base umpire. The hand motions seemed to indicate that the third base umpire agreed with him.

[vansmack]

Monday Morning Bench Coach.
 
 Hereâ??s what I think:
 
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• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think I will never suffer a worse sports weekend in my life (Iâ??m a Notre Dame, Pittsburgh Steelers, Anaheim Angels and Tony Stewart fan.  Only Man U put a smile on my face this weekend.)</font></li>
• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think AJ Pierziynski had no friends growing up, and still has no friends today.</font></li>
• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think Jim Edmonds had no friends growing up, and still has no friends today, but that there was no way he should have been rung up â?? even if he did call him a cocksucker.</font></li>
• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think that some member of the Angels coaching staff should have been rung up this weekend, but that no member of the Cardinals staff should have been rung up.</font></li>
• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think last night was the last time I will see Darin Erstad, Bengie Molina or Mickey Hatcher in an Angels uniform.</font></li>
• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think the Notre Dame-USC game was the greatest college football game Iâ??ve ever seen, Reggie Bush deserves the Heisman, Matt Leinhart has the biggest set of balls of any player in college football and the heâ??s suffering from concussions and not telling anyone because he doesn't want to be second guessed.</font></li>
• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think Charlie Weis will go down as one of the greatest coaches in Notre Dame history, if he doesnâ??t have a heart attack before he gets there.</font></li>
• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think this has been the worst umpired LCS I have ever seen for both the AL and the NL.</font></li>
• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think Tommy Maddox displayed the true differences between NFL Europe and the real NFL yesterday.  That and his deal with the devil is up.</font></li>
• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think Vlad Guerrero was hurt and didnâ??t tell anyone.</font></li>
• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think Iâ??m not very good at Fantasy Hockey.</font></li>

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 Hereâ??s what I think I think:
 
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• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think I think that for a group of veterans, the Angels really didnâ??t handle all the bad calls as they should have and that the rain delay in New York had a bigger effect on the team than the calls, but that the media wonâ??t talk about it because they beat New York.</font></li>
• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think I think that Ozzie Guillen really doesnâ??t know how to handle a pitching staff, but that the announcers will laud his accomplishments for the next two weeks.  The first time a reliever comes in to a clutch situation and Tim McCarver says he looks rusty, I will be proved right.</font></li>
• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think I think that I like Lou Pinella.  Not in a like-like kind of way either.</font></li>

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 Coffeenerdness:  Mountain Dew is a great coffee substitute, but the "Tall Boy" 16 oz. can of Mountain Dew Amp should be listed by the FDA as a narcotic.

[ratioci nation]

i think baseball makes me sad, and the fact that baseball makes me sad makes me sad
 
 and i am not very good at fantasy hockey either

[BookerT]

i think that FOX will wish they could show "house" -- hell, even "prison break" -- instead of the ratings bonanza that will be a white sox/astros world series.
 
 i also think that my lack hockey knowledge is starting to become clear.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Chicago is a large market city...
 
 

Originally posted by BookerT:
  i think that FOX will wish they could show "house" -- hell, even "prison break" -- instead of the ratings bonanza that will be a white sox/astros world series.
 
 i also think that my lack hockey knowledge is starting to become clear.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
  Chicago is a large market city...
 
   

When the Cubs play it is.  Not when the White Sox play.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Why do people prefer the Cubs over the Sox? The Cubs suck.
 
 

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
  Chicago is a large market city...
 
   

When the Cubs play it is.  Not when the White Sox play. [/b]

[BookerT]

well, i'm sure robbie fulks will watch.
 
 really, no combination of the four teams was going to get good ratings. chicago's a big market, but how many casual baseball fans can name a single player on the pale hose? el duque is probably their best-known player, just from his time with the yankees. maybe if they go overboard on "this might be the last time you get to watch roger clemens, arguably the greatest pitcher in the history of the game" type stuff, it'll connect with people.