are we less of a night owl city than we once were?

[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

So, hearing how long that GBV show went on got me a-thinkin'.   Back in the day I remember that shows at the 9:30 club often had *four* sets, two full sets by the opening band and two sets by the headliners.   Often for shows like this I wouldn't get home 'til 3am even on a weeknight.  I'd fall in bed, my hair reeking of clove cigarettes, exhausted but satisfied.  What became of those days?   Or does that second pair of sets still happen but I'm just in bed and don't know about it?

[Bombay Chutney]

ahhhh yes - the days when the headlining band would come on stage for their second set at 1:30am on a Tuesday.
 
 [crotchety old-man voice]
 
 ...and we  liked it that way!
 
 [/crotchety old-man voice]

[Bags]

I think, Doom, that the late nights you refer to are now the Velvet Lounge timetable.  And Black Cat is closer to that.  The 'new' 9:30 Club is a more grown up place (in a good way...), and the others have filled that more late-night niche.  
 
 For me, I say god bless!  I am completely cool with late Friday and Saturday shows, but those mid-week shows can be killers.  I've skipped Velvet Lounge shows (like the Tyde and Elefant) 'cuz the headliner's not going on until midnight or so, on a school night.
 
 Hell, I was at 9:30 Club four times last week, and for both mid-week shows I was home by 11:00.  {yeah}

[Bombay Chutney]

Oh, I could never handle that schedule now.  But 15-20 years ago my ability to recover from those late nights was much better.

[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

Well even the Black Cat and the VL don't do those double sets.  That was cool...often bands would use the last set of the night to play more obscure stuff, or just generally phuq around, to a dwindling crowd of bleary-eyed, booze-addled (or Coca-Cola-addled if it was a Dischord show) fans.
 
 I guess what I really miss about those days is the fact that it really didn't matter much if I got home at 3am.    

[bearman🐻]

Good God, I remember being hungover from those 3am nights when I was out dancing at Club Heaven or hanging out after late shows at the 9:30...showing up for work the next day, still drunk or barely functioning. I just can't do that stuff anymore. Not that I see that as a bad thing though! I just have more going on in my life that requires me to be focused. But on a weekend, it's a different story  

[Guiny]

Originally posted by bunnyman:
  Good God, I remember being hungover from those 3am nights when I was out dancing at Club Heaven or hanging out after late shows at the 9:30...showing up for work the next day, still drunk or barely functioning. I just can't do that stuff anymore. Not that I see that as a bad thing though! I just have more going on in my life that requires me to be focused. But on a weekend, it's a different story    

Is there still a Club Heaven, I walked passed that area not too long ago and didnt notice it. I used to like their Thursday night 80's music.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

There's no reason for shows to go on as late as they do. I'll bet a lot more people would go to shows if they started at 8 and ended by 11. Also, there's really no reason to have an opening act. Nobody gives a fuck about the opener. And if they do, they should just go see the opener when they have a headlining gig.

[TomJaworski]

There's no reason for shows to go on as late as they do. I'll bet a lot more people would go to shows if they started at 8 and ended by 11. Also, there's really no reason to have an opening act. Nobody gives a fuck about the opener. And if they do, they should just go see the opener when they have a headlining gig.  

Wah, wah, wah...
 Concerts should NOT begin at 8.  Keep an open mind.  Some people don't work 9 to 5. The world doesn't revolve around you. And the whole idea of not having an opening act is ridiculous.  Sure, I've seen some downright shitty openers, but I've also seen some excellent bands that I would never have heard of or given a chance if I didn't see them open for a band I already liked.  Plus, not all bands get a "headlining gig" right off the bat.  You gotta start somewhere and build an audience.  That's how the music industry sometimes works. Think about it.

[kosmo vinyl]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  There's no reason for shows to go on as late as they do. I'll bet a lot more people would go to shows if they started at 8 and ended by 11. Also, there's really no reason to have an opening act. Nobody gives a fuck about the opener. And if they do, they should just go see the opener when they have a headlining gig.

yup nobody gave a fuck about tommy keene   :roll:

[chaz]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  There's no reason for shows to go on as late as they do. I'll bet a lot more people would go to shows if they started at 8 and ended by 11. Also, there's really no reason to have an opening act. Nobody gives a fuck about the opener. And if they do, they should just go see the opener when they have a headlining gig.

Thanks for clearing that up Rhett.
 
 And to think the multi-billion dollar concert business has been doing it all wrong for all these years.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Yeah, as if concert venues are stable business ventures.
 
    I do give the 9:30 and Iota credit for moving their shows to earlier times on weeknights. I'm just saying that it wouldn't hurt business (and would probably help) to bump them up even a little more.
 
 

Originally posted by chaz:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  There's no reason for shows to go on as late as they do. I'll bet a lot more people would go to shows if they started at 8 and ended by 11. Also, there's really no reason to have an opening act. Nobody gives a fuck about the opener. And if they do, they should just go see the opener when they have a headlining gig.

Thanks for clearing that up Rhett.
 
 And to think the multi-billion dollar concert business has been doing it all wrong for all these years. [/b]

[kosmo vinyl]

however support acts are added to bills to help bring in more fans, especially if it's a local act with a good draw.  support acts also come as part of the package with the headliner.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

I've probably been to 150-200 concerts in my life...maybe more, and maybe one or two of them had an opener that was the deciding factor in going.
 
 The lateness of the show, in part due to the fact that the headliner went on so late, has been a deciding factor to go on numerous occasions.
 
 But that's just me.
 

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  however support acts are added to bills to help bring in more fans, especially if it's a local act with a good draw.  support acts also come as part of the package with the headliner.

[bellenseb]

Late nite weeknight shows are a drag. I went to see Alasdair Roberts at the Warehouse and he went on about 1:15 on a Tuesday.
 
 We don't need afternoon shows, but it'd be nice if the show could be over by midnight on a weeknight. The Black Cat varies, sometimes this is the case but other times the headliner waits til 11:30 to hit the stage.