Author Topic: Ottobar tonight (Read 18431 times)

wingelbert humptyback · « **Reply #45 on:** February 04, 2003, 06:41:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: So the smiths are directly more influential on you than the Beatles.That was the point I was making. WELL DONE,fool.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I didn't realize that judging who was a better song writer could all be summed up by which band I happen to listen to more. How exciting! I really do appreciate the attention and your willingness to acknowledge how important my opinion is. You're really such a sweetheart.Suffice it to say (if you haven't caught up by now), making the point that they are more directly influential on me has literally nothing to do with anything. Lately I've listened to Interpol more than the Beatles, does that mean they are more prolific songwriters as well? Hardly. By the way, I know an eight year old that does nothing but listen to BB Mak. If you want I can put you in touch with her so you can let her know that means they are better songwriters than the Beatles as well.

markie · « **Reply #46 on:** February 04, 2003, 06:45:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller: and allmusic gives the debut 5 stars and meat is murder 3. i would say 3 for the debut and 4 for meat is murder.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I tend to agree with you......I guess The Smiths gets more stars as in a lot of ways it set the bands songwriting style and a number of songs on the album the smiths never bettered. But Hatful of hollow really did showcase how those songs should have sounded in the firstplace. But then as an album Hatful is little odd, in my opinion a good collection of songs not held well together.Something that I dont find to be true of any of their subsequent albums.

Joymonster · « **Reply #47 on:** February 04, 2003, 06:46:00 pm »

I'd give their debut a solid four stars, and "Meat Is Murder" three stars. I liked "Meat Is Murder" but felt as an album it was a bit uneven, especially with the inclusion of "How Soon Is Now", which didn't fit in with the other songs musically. "Hatful Of Hollow" was their best, IMO.

Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer · « **Reply #48 on:** February 04, 2003, 06:48:00 pm »

I'd give Hatful of Hollow and Queen is Dead both 5 stars

markie · « **Reply #49 on:** February 04, 2003, 06:50:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by wingelbert humptyback: I didn't realize that judging who was a better song writer could all be summed up by which band I happen to listen to more. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>No one said that. to paraphrase and recap.....you said you listened to the smiths more than the Beatles.therefore the smiths are more likely to have influenced you directly than the beatles.Its that simple.If you have listened to interpol more than the smiths or the Beatles then I can draw two conclusions.i) you are very misguidedii) They have had more influence on you than the smiths and beatles.

markie · « **Reply #50 on:** February 04, 2003, 06:54:00 pm »

In my opinion.....the smiths 3hatful 4the rest i would give 5and perhaps a classic album special gold sticker to The Queen is Deadwhich really does belong in the company of innervisions, pet sounds and whats going on.

Dr. Anton Phibes · « **Reply #51 on:** February 04, 2003, 06:55:00 pm »

When I think of The Cure........It always comes back to "Pornography"......love that damn album......and I saw 'em about half a dozen times for other albums......none compared......

not too shabby · « **Reply #52 on:** February 04, 2003, 06:58:00 pm »

I will say that The Queen is Dead would be right alongside Disintegration in my "stranded on a desert island with only 10 albums" list. That said, if I could only have one, it would be Disintegration. That said, if I were stranded alone with only Disintegration, could I use it to purify water? Probably not.

markie · « **Reply #53 on:** February 04, 2003, 06:58:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by imrotten: When I think of The Cure........It always comes back to "Pornography"......love that damn album......and I saw 'em about half a dozen times for other albums......none compared......<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Is there an ECHO? ECHo? ECho? Echo? echo?

markie · « **Reply #54 on:** February 04, 2003, 07:00:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by not too shabby: I with only 10 albums" list. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I dunno,I think I would pick ten albums I wasnt nearly so familiar with. I havent listend to the smiths for 8 years. I just played them too much.

wingelbert humptyback · « **Reply #55 on:** February 04, 2003, 07:02:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: No one said that. If you have listened to interpol more than the smiths or the Beatles then I can draw two conclusions.i) you are very misguidedii) They have had more influence on you than the smiths and beatles.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I still don't understand when we started debating who influenced me more. This started as a discussion about who were better songwriters. When I said I listened to the Smiths more than the Beatles these days, I was just trying to make the point that one person listening to them more doesn't necessarily make them better songwriters. Even though I don't happen to listen to the Beatles on a daily basis, I can acknowledge they are far better song writers than most anything that does find it's way into my cd player more often. Maybe they don't influence me directly as much as some bands, but their career means much more to music as a whole. And no, I haven't even come close to listening to Interpol as much as either of those two bands and I seriously doubt I ever will. Again, it was just a point about who is in my Cd player more often lately.

not too shabby · « **Reply #56 on:** February 04, 2003, 07:05:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: I dunno,I think I would pick ten albums I wasnt nearly so familiar with. I havent listend to the smiths for 8 years. I just played them too much.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, there are certain albums that will never get old for me. I would rather have these (and my unlimited supply of batteries, of course), than something I'm not sure I'll like after listening to it 50 times.Not that it's a realistic scenario at all, but it's always interesting to consider.

markie · « **Reply #57 on:** February 04, 2003, 07:10:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by wingelbert humptyback: They were innovative and influential in a way the Smiths could never even dream of achieving. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I believe you brought up the word influential.I was trying to highlight that influential is a term open to many interpretations.I still quote smiths songs and lines in a way I never did the beatles. I have spent more time listening to the smiths than the Beatles. The smiths have had more direct influence on me then the beatles have.Although in a wider view without the beatles or the New York dolls the smiths would never have existed. So the Beatles are more influential in that sense. Agree?

markie · « **Reply #58 on:** February 04, 2003, 07:12:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by not too shabby: Well, there are certain albums that will never get old for me. .<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>everything gets old to me, well apart from Sandinista! but that is so long that by the time I get to the end I have forgoten the beginning.[This message has been edited by markie (edited 02-04-2003).]

not too shabby · « **Reply #59 on:** February 04, 2003, 07:14:00 pm »

That's just what happens when you get old.

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