fantasy baseball

[distance]

league signups started today.
 are we going to have another forum league or two this year?!

[HoyaSaxa03]

gluttons for punishment, eh?

[BookerT]

um, shouldn't it be me typing that, hoya?

[HoyaSaxa03]

let's begin the 2 week debate over stat categories ... can anyone dig up last year's thread?

[vansmack]

http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=012397;p=2

[allmy$to930]

No holds. I think this category is pure luck.
 
 I prefer to get rid of walks, but it is not a dealbreaker.

[BookerT]

traditional 5x5 is almost always the way to go. if the sabremetric folk wanted OBP instead of AVG, i'd be down with that, but could go either way.

[distance]

there could always be more than one league...
 i've always wanted to make a league with almost completely off-the-wall categories rather than the standards..

[HoyaSaxa03]

i run a cumulative points-based league every year that's based on something similar to this:
 
 Stat Modifiers:
 
 Hitting
 
 TB (5)
 R (5)
 RBI (5)
 SH (2)
 SF (2)
 SB (5)
 CS (-3)
 BB (3)
 IBB (1)
 HBP (3)
 K (-1)
 GIDP (-3)
 
 Pitching
 
 TBF (3)
 K (1)
 GIDP (1)
 ER (-4)
 TB (-1)
 BB (-1)
 HBP (-1)
 WP (-1)
 BLK (-1)
 SB (-1)
 
 SV (90)
 SVOP (-40)
 W (45)
 L (-15)
 HLD (40)
 
 the pitching is being radically revamped this year, but the hitting should be similar
 
 i'll let you know if there are any open slots

[HoyaSaxa03]

my proposal:
 
 OBP / SLG / R / RBI / SB
 
 ERA / WHIP / W / K / Sv
 
 i'd really prefer to do a league that uses SLG in some way (OPS, SLG, whatever)

[Sage 703]

the points league was actually very cool...

[hijinksandsue]

I love the idea of a league with more off-the-wall categories.
 
 I was going to be in a league that tossed W (overrated stats if ever there was one, especially in the Minors), Sv and straight BB and K out the window and was going with ERA, WHIP, BB/9, K/9 and AVG against for pitchers ... can't recall the offensive categories but it definitely included OPS, AVG R and TB ... not sure what the fifth was. Maybe SB-minus-CS?
 
 But it was going to be an all-Minor League league, and sadly the commish realized that the stat service could not access all the Minor League stats, and he had too many other leagues to be able to do it by hand.
 
 I can access the stats but until they add about 10 more hours to the day, I am not volunteering for that job ...
 
 Hats off to the folks who tally the points leagues by hand. My former boss did it every day for a 15-team league with active 40-man rosters.
 
 Callat, would love to hear more about your league at Rock and Romp.

[Venerable Bede]

i want bonuses for pitcher's hitting. . .if that means an nl only league, so be it (the dh rule still sucks).

[HoyaSaxa03]

no offense, sue, but your league sounds retarded ... why would you use three overlapping stats like OPS, AVG and TB?

[hijinksandsue]

no offense, sue, but your league sounds retarded ... why would you use three overlapping stats like OPS, AVG and TB?  

Oh, first of all, it's not "my league" ... just one that I was approached about in the formative stages of discussion but it was pretty much nipped in the proverbial bud once it was realized that no stat service could do it ... so no offense taken as far as that goes.
 
 Honestly, while I know those were the five pitching categories, I don't specifically recall the five offensive categories since it was discussed and discarded pretty quickly ... so now that you mention it, it may well have made more sense than that. My bad.
 
 The league I AM in is very run-of-the-mill (AVG, HR, RBI, SB, W-minus-L, ERA, K, Sv, blah blah blah). So was just sayin' that I'm intrigued by the idea of something more complex ... (and hey, don't worry, I wasn't asking to be in your league, I just was interested to read the "fantasy baseball" thread here).