Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?

[sweetcell]

Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 From the balcony you could clearly see that Justice totally recreates their music on stage.

they were indeed "totally recreating their music on stage", then again pressing play on a CD also totally recreates music  :p   they were using software called Ableton Live in which they have individual instrument tracks (bass, kick, vocal, synth #1, synth #2, etc) that they can mute/unmute, loop, re-sample, etc.  other than an occasional synth line, they were only remixing up there.  
 
 was anyone at both the sonar and the 930 show?  were the setlists different?
 
 

Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 and in the middle they have a sequence of knobs that Xavier was using heavily which is when I realized that he was actually recreating the music from those knobs and buttons.

those knobs and buttons are mapped to Live.  buttons = mute/unmute of a track or start/stop of a sample, knobs = volume or EQ.
 
 

Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 And what's the point of having 18 extra amps on stage? The show was/is loud enough as it is. If those Marshalls WERE real then people would be bleeding from their ears, and there's no way that those Marshall amps were real at the Terminal 5 shows because they all would have had mics to pickup the sound from them.

they were "real" marshalls in NYC, they just weren't plugged in.  last night, they weren't even real marshalls.  in the end it doesn't make a different, since they're never plugged... i guess it comes down to cost - if they're not going to use them to pump out sound, then why bother paying for actual cabinets with speakers?

[930clubber]

i thought the marshalls were real until the lighting inside the cabinets came on.
 
 the 930 has a plenty loud and crisp sound system.  the marshalls would have been overkill.
 
 as for why, maybe you need to brush up on your semiotics theory.

[DeathFromAbove1979]

Originally posted by sweetcell:
   

Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 From the balcony you could clearly see that Justice totally recreates their music on stage.

they were indeed "totally recreating their music on stage", then again pressing play on a CD also totally recreates music   :p    they were using software called Ableton Live in which they have individual instrument tracks (bass, kick, vocal, synth #1, synth #2, etc) that they can mute/unmute, loop, re-sample, etc.  other than an occasional synth line, they were only remixing up there.  
 
 was anyone at both the sonar and the 930 show?  were the setlists different?
 
   

Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 and in the middle they have a sequence of knobs that Xavier was using heavily which is when I realized that he was actually recreating the music from those knobs and buttons.

those knobs and buttons are mapped to Live.  buttons = mute/unmute of a track or start/stop of a sample, knobs = volume or EQ.
 
   

Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 And what's the point of having 18 extra amps on stage? The show was/is loud enough as it is. If those Marshalls WERE real then people would be bleeding from their ears, and there's no way that those Marshall amps were real at the Terminal 5 shows because they all would have had mics to pickup the sound from them.

they were "real" marshalls in NYC, they just weren't plugged in.  last night, they weren't even real marshalls.  in the end it doesn't make a different, since they're never plugged... i guess it comes down to cost - if they're not going to use them to pump out sound, then why bother paying for actual cabinets with speakers? [/b]

I don't think Justice uses Ableton, but I wouldn't be suprised if they did. They've admitted using Garage Band. And there were no cds in play last night, clearly they are using computer and I didnt mean COMPLETELY re-creating their music but even if they aer "just remixing" you CANNOT tell me that it's not impressive. I know that there are definetly better live remixers out there, but they are hot and since they are hot the shit talk and haters will come out in droves [admit that] but they are definetly on top of what game they have right now. They can definetly improve and in time I don't doubt that they will be, even though they sort of already are, one of the elites out there. And I was at the Baltimore show, the sets were the same, but with any duo of their caliber their set rarely changes through a tour. MSTRKRFT, Digitalism, Simian Mobile Disco, Felix Da Housecat. They all use the same set day in and day out. Granted they might have a few different sets to play and over time they'll move tracks and switch tracks out but it's usually the same. And from both shows every here and there was a different little mix, but I wasn't going in expecting a completely different show. Just like most bands they have the same setlist throughout a tour.
 
 Either way I really enjoyed the shows and am really glad I got to see them. It just makes me sad to see all this hate is all. I never get mad on this message board. So sad.

[eros]

Originally posted by samsfresh5:
 This is hilarious. Did it ever occur to you that maybe the band decides when they go on and off?  This is like bitching about the "930 Club's photo policy" ..the ARTIST decides this, not the club, and it varies night to night based on what the ARTIST wants.  So the next time instead of being "real dicks" about it, I'll talk to Thatguy about it and maybe he can pull the plug on the artist at 11:45 so that you can catch the metro.      
 
 Thanks for your well-thought-out ideas!

Have you ever seen contracts that bands sign with promoters (I haven't)?  I can imagine there is something in there that tells them when they have to go on and at least how long they have to play.

[Giles]

Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
   

Originally posted by manimtired:
   

Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
     

Originally posted by kosmo:
  let's hope justice remembers to pack backup dat players and tapes       :p    

From the balcony you could clearly see that Justice totally recreates their music on stage. I was blown away, I was pissed I was on the balcony but I actually got tos ee how they were working. They have their light controls in the middle in between them and then each have 2 touch screens and midi controllers under each screen, and in the middle they have a sequence of knobs that Xavier was using heavily which is when I realized that he was actually recreating the music from those knobs and buttons. I was blown away, hate on them as much as you want but I was wayy more impressed once I saw this. Granted they probably had lots of stuff pre-mixed, but ther's sstill a good chunk of teamwork that goes into it to re-produce a lot of music and to improvise.
 
 And what's the point of having 18 extra amps on stage? The show was/is loud enough as it is. If those Marshalls WERE real then people would be bleeding from their ears, and there's no way that those Marshall amps were real at the Terminal 5 shows because they all would have had mics to pickup the sound from them.
 
 Their whole stage set-up is fake, the Amps and giant synthesizer. They've admitted to it... not like it's a huge surprise. It's a show... Did you know Daft Punk's pyramid is only half a pyramid!? ZOMG! [/b]

you have horrible taste in music [/b]

You can say that, Im not gonna argue with you. I love electronica, but believe me the 33 gigs of music on my computer is not entirely electronica. I go to live shows to be entertained and to see my favorite groups live. You people seem to go there JUST to complain about it later. That show was amazing and it was a blast, the least you could say is that you danced a bit. But no you peolpe have to nitpick about everythnig. Yeah, Justice is popular and a ton of people want to see them. You people come off like you're owed your own special tiny little venue when it's just you and your elitist friends or something.
 
 Not to justify anything but my most played bands on my iTunes are as goes: QOTSA, Spoon, Klaxons, M.I.A., Muse, Kings of Leon, Devendra Banhart, and Arctic Monkeys.
 
 So before you go judging a book by its cover, suck a dick. [/b]

the only dick I saw was the one audience member purposefully shoving folk - what a fucktard.  Douches like that aren't there for the music, they're there just to make trouble and ruin the concert experience.

[sweetcell]

Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 So before you go judging a book by its cover, suck a dick.

you're a street-teamer for the B-52s, aren't you?  :p

[eros]

This thread is making me more and more happy that I sold my tickets.

[samsfresh5]

Originally posted by eros:
 Have you ever seen contracts that bands sign with promoters (I haven't)?  I can imagine there is something in there that tells them when they have to go on and at least how long they have to play.

I have, and I've even signed some of them, but I was not privy to what their exact contract was.  ...and I see where you're going with that, but however, without getting into a big discussion about how the contracts could be better written, adhered to, enforced, etc., it basically boils down to this... I just think it's pretty lame of someone to start bashing the 930 Club about when a band goes on or off the stage.  ...and also, not to go into great detail, but the fact is, the opening artist was late and missed their going on time, so he was bumped.  Then the other artists made adjustments to get him on, and subsequently, the headliner went on later than orginially scheduled.. again, this was all between the artists and I don't think the club had much do do with it.  ...So the fact that the artist went on late... and ended late.. and someone comes in and blames the 930 club for "being dicks" and not considering it's patrons.. is pretty stupid as far as I'm concerned.. The 930 Club didn't win awards for best nightclub venue for being dicks to their patrons.

[DeathFromAbove1979]

Originally posted by Giles:
  the only dick I saw was the one audience member purposefully shoving folk - what a fucktard.  Douches like that aren't there for the music, they're there just to make trouble and ruin the concert experience.

Alright, we canbotha gree the reason we go to live shows is to see our favorite bands, or whatever, live and to be entertained. And on that note, were you not entertained? Aside from them "playing cds" the whole night the show was spectactular! At every show there will be cocksuckers to ruin it, but thats to be expected whether you can see them or not.
 
 ♥

[Giles]

Originally posted by samsfresh5:
   

Originally posted by eros:
 Have you ever seen contracts that bands sign with promoters (I haven't)?  I can imagine there is something in there that tells them when they have to go on and at least how long they have to play.

I have, and I've even signed some of them, but I was not privy to what their exact contract was.  ...and I see where you're going with that, but however, without getting into a big discussion about how the contracts could be better written, adhered to, enforced, etc., it basically boils down to this... I just think it's pretty lame of someone to start bashing the 930 Club about when a band goes on or off the stage.  ...and also, not to go into great detail, but the fact is, the opening artist was late and missed their going on time, so he was bumped.  Then the other artists made adjustments to get him on, and subsequently, the headliner went on later than orginially scheduled.. again, this was all between the artists and I don't think the club had much do do with it.  ...So the fact that the artist went on late... and ended late.. and someone comes in and blames the 930 club for "being dicks" and not considering it's patrons.. is pretty stupid as far as I'm concerned.. The 930 Club didn't win awards for best nightclub venue for being dicks to their patrons. [/b]

yet the inclusion of Wale boggles the mind ... so what happens to bands that show up late, cause time slots to get bounced at those clubs that have curfew/sound ordinances - I'm sure it's sorry charlie.

[Giles]

Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
   

Originally posted by Giles:
  the only dick I saw was the one audience member purposefully shoving folk - what a fucktard.  Douches like that aren't there for the music, they're there just to make trouble and ruin the concert experience.

Alright, we canbotha gree the reason we go to live shows is to see our favorite bands, or whatever, live and to be entertained. And on that note, were you not entertained? Aside from them "playing cds" the whole night the show was spectactular! At every show there will be cocksuckers to ruin it, but thats to be expected whether you can see them or not.
 
 ♥ [/b]

oh sure the show was entertaining - I just wish I had a taser to juice the fucker.

[DeathFromAbove1979]

Oh did anyoen pick up one of the special edition posters? I thought it would be more expensive, it was 10 bucks for either gold or silver. I got the last gold one. I felt kinda special.

[930clubber]

WA LAY is a dick for being late.  Tolerable and eccentric when you're big and established; unforgivable whilst rising.  :mad:

[samsfresh5]

Originally posted by Giles:
  yet the inclusion of Wale boggles the mind ... so what happens to bands that show up late, cause time slots to get bounced at those clubs that have curfew/sound ordinances - I'm sure it's sorry charlie.

If by "inclusion" you mean Wale being on that bill.. that's a matter of opinion.. and judging by the responses on this board, it seems most would agree with you. However, that was also not a bill that was put together by 930.. it was a "MySpace Presents" show.. they put it together, not the "930 dicks". But if you mean "inclusion" in the show after he was late.. well, again, I'm pretty sure it was the other acts' decision to have him slip in between what was supposed to be the second act and the headliner.  I wasn't involved in it, but from what I overheard, the 930 crew bumped him because he was so late, but then the other acts tried to make room for him to perform a shortened set than what he was originally set to perform. (I could be wrong on this, but that's the way it seemed from where I was working.) So, by doing that, it made the show run later than originally anticipated. Not longer than the curfew is for that venue on a Wednesday night (which I'm not sure what that is, but I know its later than 11:45) Had the curfew been in jeopardy of being crossed and the headliner would've had to cut short their set, I'm sure it would have been "sorry charlie" and I have seen that happen before.
 
 Whatever.. my point still remains that to come in here and make a statement that it's all the 930's fault and that they somehow either neglected to think of metro riders when they booked this show, or that they were careless in when they put the acts on the stage which made the show run to 12:10 instead of ending at 11:45 ... and calling us all "dicks" is ridiculous.  Did you bother to ask any of the staph there last night why that happened before you ran home to your computer? Because I have a hard time thinking that you would've ran up to one of them and started telling them how big of dicks they are because the show started and went late.  That's all I'm saying.. before you start slinging fuck words and calling people dicks from your keyboard, you may want to find out how it all works first.

[grover.37]

An incoherent review I wrote for another board:
 
 The whole set was only 55 minutes but it was segued nonstop beats and it was hot.  They kind of went off stage after the main set and came back for another 15-20 minutes to finish the set.  They came back for a second encore and did Master of Puppets.  It was so much different I didn't even recognize it (that and I haven't listed to Master of Puppets in 10 years).  The segues were usually ridiculous and I thought a lot of the improv was better than the actual songs.  DANCE was jammed out at the end and Party sounded *very* different.  I welcomed both of these changes as I absolutely hate those two songs.  I wish I knew the song names a bit better so I could place them while at the show.  Sorry I couldn't help anymore...  Dogfish Indian Brown was flowing (as always) and I didn't make it to work today until 11:10.  Good night.
 
 The opening DJ was pretty good and I would recommend getting there early for him if he's opening.  These two black d00ds (Wale) apparently missed their opening spot   and had to play after the DJ.  They definitely pushed Justice back because they started when Justice was supposed to come on.  These guys were a fucking joke.  It was a guy on turntables and a rapper/MC.  They opened with Jump On It   and honestly half the set was If ya black/white/college student/broke/etc. make some NOIIIZZEEEE!!!   They even fucking closed (their 20 min set) with DANCE.  I couldn't fucking believe they were playing the headliners songs half an hour before they would play it.         Luckily, the pain soon stopped and the crowd got super restless.  
 
 This was by far the stupidest crowd I have ever seen.  The place was sold out, yet it was about half full upstairs.  We had a perfect view of the floor from the second balcony and the crowd was swaying back and forth while waiting for Justice.  People were pushing and shoving and it was a general mess.  Kids were crowdsurfing and it looked amazingly uncomfortable down there.  Stupid ass hipster youngsters don't know any better.  Meanwhile, Lisa, Pearce, and I had room to get down and never waited for a beer or the bathroom.  Fucking Myspace Tour.