Author Topic: Kobe has his "Street Cred"  (Read 14004 times)

Celeste

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Re: Kobe has his "Street Cred"
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2003, 10:38:00 am »
I should also clarify that I'm not even a big Kobe fan. There are many other players I prefer...oh well...I guess we'll see what comes out...

mankie

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Re: Kobe has his "Street Cred"
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2003, 10:45:00 am »
It could be worse, it could be Michael "shit doesn't smell, walks on water, second coming of Christs" Jordan.

Re: Kobe has his "Street Cred"
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2003, 11:11:00 am »
Amen, guiny.
 
 
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  He'll get off because he's innocent of the charges.
 
   
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  Oh I'm sure he'll get off with him being a sports celebrity and all.
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mankie

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Re: Kobe has his "Street Cred"
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2003, 12:03:00 pm »
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 He'll get off because he's innocent of the charges.
 
 
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 You mean just like O.J. ?

ggw

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Re: Kobe has his "Street Cred"
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2003, 12:07:00 pm »
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 You mean just like O.J. ?
More like Marion - "Bitch set me up!"

sonickteam2

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Re: Kobe has his "Street Cred"
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2003, 12:20:00 pm »
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 He'll get off because he's innocent of the charges.
 
 
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 You mean just like O.J. ? [/b]
yeah, OJ got off because the police effed the investigation.  but that happens every day, you just only hear about it when its on the news. Most of the time, its the police that fuck up getting criminals convicted.

mankie

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Re: Kobe has his "Street Cred"
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2003, 12:28:00 pm »
I don't think the cops effed up enough to get O.J. off, the evidence was overwhelming against him...I can't figure out what the jurors were thinking (being pc here for a change)
 
 My point was simply that Bryant will get off the criminal case regardles of what happened in that hotel room, not because he's innocent, which he may be, but that's unfortunately irrelevant.
 
 The alleged victim said today she doesn't want any money, just Kolbe Bryant to go to jail, but we'll have to wait and see how that pans out won't we.?

vansmack

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Re: Kobe has his "Street Cred"
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2003, 12:31:00 pm »
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 Just because it's an athlete who has a squeaky reputation, he could still have done it, and the fact they took two weeks to press charges means they've done their homework on the case so there must be something, and a sexual assault case is harder for the victim to prove than any other crime.
 
Actually Mank, two weeks in a sexual assault case usually means that they have a lot of holes in the victims story because it's much faster/easier to charge if you have indisputable evidence.
 
 And those holes would be todays front page sports news.  I wouldn't want to get into a character contest with Kobe Bryant if I were either (1) a drug user or (2) suicidal.
 
 Report: Kobe's accuser recently overdosed
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 The Colorado woman who has accused Kobe Bryant of sexual assault overdosed on pills and was rushed to a hospital two months before the alleged incident with Bryant, one of her close friends told the Orange County Register.
 
 Based on the 19-year-old woman's accusation, Bryant was officially charged with a single count of felony sexual assault Friday. If convicted, he faces four years to life in prison or 20 years to life on probation, and a fine of up to $750,000. Bryant is scheduled to return to Eagle, Colo., for a preliminary hearing on Aug. 6.
 
 Bryant, 24, said Friday that he was guilty only of committing adultery.
 
 In cases of this nature, the credibility of the accuser -- whose identity is not being revealed -- often becomes an issue. The accuser's friends have been keeping her overdose a secret -- until now, the Register reported.
 
 "I think it was just a cry for help," 18-year-old Lindsey McKinney told the newspaper. McKinney had been living at the accuser's house in May, when the woman allegedly took the pills.
 
 When she learned from the woman's ex-boyfriend that the woman had "overdosed," McKinney rushed to her home and found the woman incoherent, lethargic and seemingly drunk, according to the Register.
 
 "I was scared. She wasn't really talking at all," McKinney told the newspaper. "I was like, 'you need to open your eyes.' "
 
 Some friends of the accuser said they believed the overdose was an accident. Not McKinney.
 
 "I don't think it was accidental. I was there," she told the Register.
 
 Bryant's attorneys could not be reached for comment Saturday by the Register.
 
 Tyson Ivie, a former classmate of the accuser's, told the newspaper that the overdose was "a big secret" that friends have been unwilling to talk about until now.
 
 The police dispatch call from the night of the alleged assault is currently sealed from the public by investigators. The woman's father declined comment for the Register's story.
 
 According to the newspaper's report, Bryant's accuser was going through an extremely difficult period in her life at the time of the overdose. She returned home from her freshman year of college to find out her ex-boyfriend had taken up with another woman. Also, around the time of the overdose, close friend Nicole Clements died in a road accident while returning from high school graduation ceremonies.
 
 "It was kind of boom, boom, boom," McKinney told the Register. "I think the things that happened to her in the past had a lot to do with what [she said happened the night of the alleged assault]."
 
 "I know she had been going through a lot, but I know that she wouldn't lie," 19-year-old Eagle resident Ashley Scriver told the newspaper. Scriver also knew about the the overdose.
 
 The Register quoted legal experts as saying the news of the overdose will be a major advantage for Bryant's defense team.
 
 "This is powerful evidence and the answer to the defense's prayers," Robert Pugsley, a criminal law professor at Southwestern University School of Law in Los Angeles, said. Pugsley added that this kind of evidence, if exploited by the defense, could be enough to shut down the case before it reaches trial.
 
 "[Defense attorneys are] looking for a way to demonstrate that this woman is hysterical and over-reactive," Pugsley said. "This is literally dynamite evidence, a bonanza for the defense and a landmine for prosecution."
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J'Mal

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Re: Kobe has his "Street Cred"
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2003, 12:36:00 pm »
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EXACTLY! If it were you or I we'd be doing 20 to life. [/b]
If it were you, you wouldnt have gotten any.
 If it were I or most other people on the board, we wouldn't have a big frikin' target on our backs and there would be no charges.

ggw

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Re: Kobe has his "Street Cred"
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2003, 12:40:00 pm »
Are any of you basing your assumption of Kobe's innocence on any evidence?  Or, merely assuming that women are lying gold-digging bitches and hos?

sonickteam2

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Re: Kobe has his "Street Cred"
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2003, 12:46:00 pm »
oh come on!!!! havent we all had a boyfriend/girlfriend leave us for another and our friend die in a car wreck and then take a whole bottle of pills and almost die and then sleep with a married celebrity?
   sounds like a normal week for me.

mankie

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Re: Kobe has his "Street Cred"
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2003, 12:59:00 pm »
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  Are any of you basing your assumption of Kobe's innocence on any evidence?  Or, merely assuming that women are lying gold-digging bitches and hos?
Damn ho went to his room, she was asking for it!   ;)  
 
 Not quite sure what J'mal is babbling on about, but "okay, yeah, right J'mal!"  :roll:

J'Mal

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Re: Kobe has his "Street Cred"
« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2003, 12:59:00 pm »
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  Are any of you basing your assumption of Kobe's innocence on any evidence?  Or, merely assuming that women are lying gold-digging bitches and hos?
Kobe has been in the public eye for many years and yes, we do get to know something about him after all these years.  His personality comes through.  How often does he even foul out of a game???  And what we know about him is totally inconsistent with these allegations.  That, plus the fact the woman came to his room late at night and that she's emotionally unstable, smells like bullshit.

mankie

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Re: Kobe has his "Street Cred"
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2003, 01:03:00 pm »
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 Kobe has been in the public eye for many years and yes, we do get to know something about him after all these years.  His personality comes through.  How often does he even foul out of a game???  And what we know about him is totally inconsistent with these allegations.  That, plus the fact the woman came to his room late at night and that she's emotionally unstable, smells like bullshit.
 
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O.J. was a stand up guy too, but he did only murder the one time...well twice actually but they were at the same time so we'll call it once and let him off.
 
 Evidently he ordered room service and asked for that young girl to be the one to bring it up to him....hmmmmmm, that's strange!

J'Mal

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Re: Kobe has his "Street Cred"
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2003, 01:09:00 pm »
And where do you get that nonsense about the room service request?
 
 So because OJ made a big frikin mess in killing two people, we need to discredit Kobe on the mere say so of some random anonymous skank with mental issues.
 
 If it were some obscure british footballer being accused of a meter violation you'd be all over it.