Elliott Smith R.I.P.

[kurosawa-b/w]

Aw, no! What sad, sad news. And what a loss to everyone. I am very sorry I never got to see him live.

[Guiny]

Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
  Aw, no! What sad, sad news. And what a loss to everyone. I am very sorry I never got to see him live.

Now noone ever will again.....What ever will i do?

[mankie]

All your sadness and sympathy should be directed to his family and friends. If in fact he did commit suicide then mission accomplished on his behalf.
 
 I'm not trying to be a dick, but I firmly believe that those who kill themselves don't deserve sympathy because they took a cowards way out with no consideration whatsoever for those they left behind.
 
 Sorry, but I have my reasons for feeling strongly about the suicide issue.

[Mongo]

Well said, mankie.  While I am sad he is gone I am really angry that he decided to go out like this.  Still I'll miss the music he COULD have made.

[bearman🐻]

Of course I am angry too Mankie...simply put, it's not fair to anyone, most of all his family, friends, and loved ones. The selfish side of me as a fan says it's not fair to me too...but on a basic human level, the real tragedy is that another person has fallen victim to depression, and depression should be treated like a disease because that is what it is. Some of us are survivors of it, and we were fortunate to have medication and effective therapy.  But no person deserves to suffer. And just because they weren't strong enough to beat the disease it also doesn't mean they deserve what they got. A tragedy is a tragedy...there are no winners here, just loss.

[mankie]

Originally posted by bunnyman:
  Of course I am angry too Mankie...simply put, it's not fair to anyone, most of all his family, friends, and loved ones. The selfish side of me as a fan says it's not fair to me too...but on a basic human level, the real tragedy is that another person has fallen victim to depression, and depression should be treated like a disease because that is what it is. Some of us are survivors of it, and we were fortunate to have medication and effective therapy.  But no person deserves to suffer. And just because they weren't strong enough to beat the disease it also doesn't mean they deserve what they got. A tragedy is a tragedy...there are no winners here, just loss.

Okay, this is opening a can of worms but here goes;
 
 I've been there, wanted out, planned to go out. The details are unimportant, but basically I changed my mind at the last minute when I came to the realization it's better I live the rest of my life in total misery than take my own life to end MY pain but leave my family in the same situation because of my selfish actions.
 
 That's it...(changing subject)Arsenal lost last night,WOOOOOO-HOOOOOO!

[bearman🐻]

Mankie, I've been there too...and I'm real sorry to hear that you know what it's like. I wouldn't wish it upon anyone.  I find that even now I have good days and bad days, but fortunately that is the power of music...it can touch our lives in ways that we could have never imagined possible, it gives us the strength when we didn't know we had it in ourselves.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by mankie:
 
 That's it...

I, for one, am glad you're still here Mank.

[markie]

Originally posted by mankie:
  it's better I live the rest of my life in total misery

Ah, the trials and tribulations of a beautiful south fan.....
 
 Did you ever think you would end up  happy and have a job to make young boys so jealous?

[PR_GMR]

Very sad. Can't say I was a big fan of his work.. but heard some of it. It's always sad to me to see a person being overtaken by his demons and take his own life.  

[mankie]

Thanks smackie...me too!    
 
 Bunnyman, you're exactly right, after I decided I couldn't let my family down I relied heavily on music (and Boddingtons!) Glad you made the hard but right choice too by the way.
 
 mar...Blankie, I sometimes actually feel guilty when I realize how great my life is these days when there's a million poor souls out there hurting like I was.
 
 BTW we have the following cars right here in the showroom for our party tonight.
 
 288 GTO, F40, F50 and Enzo
 
 The likelyhood of seeing those cars together under the same roof is damn near impossible, but here they are.
 
 We also have a Maserati Quattroporte, which is probably the most beautiful car I've ever seen, honestly.

[markie]

288 GTO, F40, F50 and Enzo
 
 Care to let me know where you leave the keys?
 
 Those cars are worth more than I will ever earn, what a bummer.

[mankie]

Originally posted by BLANK:
  288 GTO, F40, F50 and Enzo
 
 Care to let me know where you leave the keys?
 
 Those cars are worth more than I will ever earn, what a bummer.

Probably more than all the board members combined will ever earn, as long as you don't include GGW!  

[PR_GMR]

Probably more than all the board members combined will ever earn, as long as you don't include GGW!

Is GGW filthy rich or something? Does he own the 9:30 club?   :cool:

[Guiny]

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by mankie:
 
 That's it...

I, for one, am glad you're still here Mank. [/b]

I'm glad your still her Mank also, if it werent for you then i would be the butt of all jokes when it comes to 80's music.