Elliott Smith R.I.P.

[bearman🐻]

288 GTO? Wow...I think that's my fave to be honest!

[mankie]

Originally posted by Guiny:
   

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by mankie:
 
 That's it...

I, for one, am glad you're still here Mank. [/b]

I'm glad your still her Mank also, if it werent for you then i would be the butt of all jokes when it comes to 80's music.    

[ggw]

Don't expect me to get all sappy, old man.
 
 
 How much would a Quattroporte set me back?

[mankie]

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Don't expect me to get all sappy, old man.
 
 
 How much would a Quattroporte set me back?

Just under $100k optioned out. $5k deposit will reserve one for you.....will that be cash, check or charge Mr. GGW?

[markie]

About 100K
 
 Would you really trade in the S600?
 
 http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0306_mas/
 
 Oh and Mankie, do you really mean 280 gto, not 250?

[ggw]

It's a beautiful car.....

[mankie]

Originally posted by BLANK:
  About 100K
 
 Would you really trade in the S600?
 
  http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0306_mas/
 
 Oh and Mankie, do you really mean 280 gto, not 250?

Nope, I mean a 288 GTO
 
  <img src="http://www.jeffchan.com/cars/concorso2001/ferrari-288-gto-red1.jpg" alt=" - " />

[Fico]

Yes depression played a huge part but I'm suprised nobody has mentioned the trigger: his chemical addiction mainly heroin. You would think by now does drugs would be passé but I guess it's cool to become a cliché... I can't understand how people get into it.. have we learned nothing after Seattle, Britpop and Sid?

[chaz]

Originally posted by Fico:
  Yes depression played a huge part but I'm suprised nobody has mentioned the trigger: his chemical addiction mainly heroin. You would think by now does drugs would be passé but I guess it's cool to become a cliché... I can't understand how people get into it.. have we learned nothing after Seattle, Britpop and Sid?

Yer right...if not for the drugs E. Smith may very well still be among us, but...
 
 I don't necessarily think everyone gets into drugs cuz they think they're 'cool' or whatever...sure they are sort of a fixture in pop culture to some degree and that certainly increases the prevalance in society....I think many get into them cuz they are depressed and at first the drugs help with feelingss of isolation, lonliness etc.  And let's face it - they feel good.  Of course the drugs stop working in this capacity after time and instead of self-medicating some sort of psychic pain you wind up feeding a bona-fide habit, which compounded with the pre-existing feelings of isolation and lonliness.....
 
 You get the picture.  
 
 Drug abuse ( ie not in moderation) = bad
 
 Depression and general untreated mental illness = bad
 
 Drug abuse + untreated mental illness = powder keg ready to explode.
 
 But back to your origional point, it is amazing folks get into them when we have so many examples like you said.

[SPARX]

Originally posted by chaz:
 [[/qb]

Yer right...if not for the drugs E. Smith may very well still be among us, but...
 
 I don't necessarily think everyone gets into drugs cuz they think they're 'cool' or whatever...sure they are sort of a fixture in pop culture to some degree and that certainly increases the prevalance in society....I think many get into them cuz they are depressed and at first the drugs help with feelingss of isolation, lonliness etc.  And let's face it - they feel good.  Of course the drugs stop working in this capacity after time and instead of self-medicating some sort of psychic pain you wind up feeding a bona-fide habit, which compounded with the pre-existing feelings of isolation and lonliness.....
 
 You get the picture.  
 
 Drug abuse ( ie not in moderation) = bad
 
 Depression and general untreated mental illness = bad
 
 Drug abuse + untreated mental illness = powder keg ready to explode.
 
  [/QB][/QUOTE]                                                                                             Well stated,I wholeheartedly concur.And for the record,kicking the habit is not an  easy thing to do,and almost imposssible without love and much support of those close to the one addicted.

[Fico]

It's hard for any of us who have never been adicted proper to ramble about getting clean and what it takes to come out of it, but I'm sure its really really hard..
 
 but the point was how with all the bad examples people still get into it.. i.e. in Seattle you had Andy Wood lead singer of Mother Love Bone an epitomal band die of overdose..I'm sure after his death many people who never used heroin from the scene gave it a go.. some came out, some as Layne Staley and Kurt Cobain never did...
 
 same with Britpop.. I finished reading an outstanding book called "The Last Party: Britpop, Blair and the demise of english rock"..I may be wrong about the title.. it documents extensively the british music scene... in bands like Elastica, Pulp & Suede among others heroin use was prominent and most of the people involved got into the habit out of it being the chic drug of the movement.. in 92' being in Camdentown doing heroin with britpop royalty was the thing to do... eventually the drug became the demise of many a bands..

[ChampionshipVinyl]

This is my first posting, and it is one that is moved by Elliott Smith's tragic death.  I keep remembering his show at the Recher theatre a few years back with Granddaddy.

[walkman]

I'm listening to Some Song right now, off the brilliant Needle in the Hay 7" (still my favorite Smith release).  The odd thing about Smith for me, though, is that I don't consider myself to be a geniune, full-fledged fan...and yet I have some moments and some memories that are always going to be entwined with his songs...he was just that kind of musician.
 
 Anyway, as I've been typing this, I've dropped the needle three times...and I'm still getting chills.
 
 Some Song
 
 It's a junkie dream makes you so uptight,
 yeah it's halloween tonight and every night.
 See you scratch your skin,
 your sandpaper throat â??
 you're a symphony, man, with one fucking note.
 How they beat you up week after week,
 and when you grow up you're going to be a freak.
 Want a violent girl who's not scared of anything...
 
 Help me kill my time,
 'cause I'll never be fine.
 Help me kill my time.
 
 You went down to look at old Dallas town,
 where you must be sick just to hang around.
 Seen it on TV how to kill your man,
 then like Gacy's scene a canvas in your hand.
 You better call your mom, she's out looking for you
 in the jail and the army and the hospital too.
 But those people there couldn't do anything for you.
 
 Help me kill my time,
 'cause I'll never be fine.
 Help me kill my time,
 help me kill my time,
 help me kill my time,
 'cause I'll never be fine.
 Help me kill my time.

[MiloGTC]

Originally posted by walkman:
  Anyway, as I've been typing this, I've dropped the needle three times...

I assume you mean the needle on the record player.

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Suicide allegedly.

Who?  Perhaps I would give more of a damn if I'd ever heard of him?  Sheb Wooley was more of a loss for me.  Call me insensitive if you must.
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