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markie

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Re: CMJ Music Fest
« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2003, 01:49:00 pm »
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 [QB] What is an antifolk artist?
 
 Jewish New Yorker? There's two strikes against him right there.
 
 
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 Oh he is quite charming, we went to talk to him and he just picked his nose.
 
 http://www.olivejuicemusic.com/antifolk_comp.html
 
 antifolk is contempory folk. Performed by young guys,  charecterised by its earthy sound quick and cheap reocording and a degree of whit and everyday observation in its lyrics. As such Adam Greens new album isnt really antifolk. Its moving closer to absurdist Leonard Coen, but easier to make friends with.

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Re: CMJ Music Fest
« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2003, 01:50:00 pm »
Who did the Moldy Peaches open for at the 9:30 a couple of years ago?
 
 I recall not liking them.

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« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2003, 01:52:00 pm »
Here is a review of a compilation that explains a little-
 
 VARIOUS ARTISTS
 
 Antifolk Vol. 1
 
 (Rough Trade)
 
 US release date: 5 November 2002
 
 UK release date: 2 September 2002
 
 by Jesse Fox Mayshark
 
 PopMatters Music Critic
 
 Folk You!
 
 For all the talk about the "New York scene" these days, the truth is that there are actually many scenes going on all at the same time. That's what you'd expect in a city of eight million people, of course -- even leaving aside the obvious distinctions (hip-hoppers vs. jazzbos vs. art-noise rockers vs. new-new-wavers, etc.), artists sort themselves out by neighborhood, venue, musical affinity, influences, etc. And that means the mini-scenes that evolve can be remarkably collegial and cohesive.
 
 The Antifolk Vol. 1 compilation is a document of just such a scene, the punky singer-songwriter crowd that gathers for Monday night "Antihoots" at Sidewalk Café in Alphabet City. It's a family of sorts -- and while they might like to pretend otherwise, the big sister and brother of this rag-tag bunch are undeniably Kimya Dawson and Adam Green of the Moldy Peaches. It's not just that Dawson and Green (who each contributes one solo track) compiled the CD. Their raw nursery rhyme aesthetic, with its sing-along melodies, left-field absurdity and casual profanity, is the touchstone for most of the 20 artists here. Few of the offerings live up to the comic-tragic standards of the Moldy Peaches' weirdly lovable 2001 debut, but most are minor pleasures on their own terms.
 
 The songs fall roughly into two camps, joke ones and serious ones. But a lot of the jokes have an edge, and even the serious ones can be funny. You can laugh at the title of Jeffrey Lewis' "You Don't Have to Be a Scientist to Do Experiments on Your Own Heart", but the song is plaintively sincere. Diane Cluck's haunting "Monte Carlo" may be the loveliest track on the album, but it's full of sardonic one-liners. The deliberately limited instrumentation (mostly acoustic guitars, with only a couple of full-band songs) can't help bringing to mind obvious references: Dylan on Jim Flynn's "Smokescreen a Capella Techno Blues" and Brer Brian's "Harlem '99", the Violent Femmes on Lach's "Drinking Beers With Mom", Beck on Paleface's "Say What You Want".
 
 In general, the songwriting is better than the singing, and the singing is better than the playing and production -- but then, the rattletrap arrangements and homegrown tape hiss are part of the offhand appeal. The flattened vocals can be a little wearing, which is why the real singers stand out (Diane Cluck, Grey Revell, Patsy Grace). Dawson and Green remain in something of a class by themselves -- the oddball lilt of each of their songs makes it easy to see why they were the ones to score first. In particular, Dawson's enigmatic "I'm Fine" (which is also on her solo CD Knock, Knock Who?) is as troubling as it is endearing.
 
 The "antifolk" tag is a little misleading. Sure, the attitude owes a lot to punk, but punk also owed more than it knew to the scuzzier side of the '60s folk revival (for proof, check out Ramblin' Jack Elliott's 1961 duet with Bob Dylan on Eric Von Schmidt's "Acne", in which the lovesick teenage narrator plans to kill his parents with a shotgun). The 20-something smart-asses at the Sidewalk Café are carrying on more traditions than they're breaking. Good for them, and lucky for us. It's a New York scene worth preserving.
 
 â?? 8 November 2002

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Re: CMJ Music Fest
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2003, 01:55:00 pm »
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Who did the Moldy Peaches open for at the 9:30 a couple of years ago?
 
 I recall not liking them.
Green's solo is much better than Moldy Peaches, not sure who they opened for.

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« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2003, 01:59:00 pm »
Here's my list:
 
 The Apes
 Biffy Clyro
 Black Box Recorder
 British Sea Power
 Broken Social Scene
 Dance Disaster Movement
 Death Cab For Cutie
 Dub Narcotic Sound System
 Earlimart
 Elefant
 The Fever
 Les Savy Fav
 The Long Winters
 Mark Gardener (Ex-Ride)
 Moving Units
 Oxes
 Pilot To Gunner
 Pretty Girls Make Graves
 Radio 4
 The Shins
 Shonen Knife
 Singapore Sling
 South
 The Starlight Mints
 Stellastarr*
 Trachtenberg Family Slideshow Players
 The Tyde
 Vendetta Red
 You Am I
 
 Bags, if you liked Idlewild, you would probably enjoy Biffy Clyro.

Re: CMJ Music Fest
« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2003, 02:04:00 pm »
You mean he's like Jason Mraz?
 
 Or more like Steve Earle?
 
 
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
 
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 [QB] What is an antifolk artist?
 
 Jewish New Yorker? There's two strikes against him right there.
 
 
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 Oh he is quite charming, we went to talk to him and he just picked his nose.
 
  http://www.olivejuicemusic.com/antifolk_comp.html
 
 antifolk is contempory folk. Performed by young guys,  charecterised by its earthy sound quick and cheap reocording and a degree of whit and everyday observation in its lyrics. As such Adam Greens new album isnt really antifolk. Its moving closer to absurdist Leonard Coen, but easier to make friends with. [/b]

kurosawa-b/w

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Re: CMJ Music Fest
« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2003, 02:06:00 pm »
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Originally posted by ggw™:
  Who did the Moldy Peaches open for at the 9:30 a couple of years ago?
 
 I recall not liking them.
The Strokes

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« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2003, 02:06:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
   
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Who did the Moldy Peaches open for at the 9:30 a couple of years ago?
 
 I recall not liking them.
Green's solo is much better than Moldy Peaches, not sure who they opened for. [/b]
To answer my own question....
 
 It was everyone's favorite 3-car garage band:
 
 http://www.inmusicwetrust.com/articles/43h05.html

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« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2003, 02:08:00 pm »
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
   
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Originally posted by ggw™:
  Who did the Moldy Peaches open for at the 9:30 a couple of years ago?
 
 I recall not liking them.
The Strokes [/b]
ding Ding DING

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Re: CMJ Music Fest
« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2003, 02:08:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  You mean he's like Jason Mraz?
 
 Or more like Steve Earle?
 
 
neither, listen here- http://www.roughtraderecords.com/rt107.html

Re: CMJ Music Fest
« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2003, 02:13:00 pm »
Work doesn't allow us Real Audio. Sure is an ugly dude. Looks like he could fit about four fingers in that nose.
 
 
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
   
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  You mean he's like Jason Mraz?
 
 Or more like Steve Earle?
 
 
neither, listen here-  http://www.roughtraderecords.com/rt107.html [/b]

Bags

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Re: CMJ Music Fest
« Reply #41 on: August 20, 2003, 02:13:00 pm »
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
 
 Bags, if you liked Idlewild, you would probably enjoy Biffy Clyro.
Thanks!  Just the kind of tips I'm looking for...

Bags

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Re: CMJ Music Fest
« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2003, 02:16:00 pm »
Adam Green = the Ben Lee/Ben Kweller school!

jadetree

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« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2003, 02:18:00 pm »
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Originally posted by bags:
  Adam Green = the Ben Lee/Ben Kweller school!
no, not really, he is good friends with Ben Kweller, but Kweller is not nearly as creative lyrically as Green

Re: CMJ Music Fest
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2003, 02:18:00 pm »
I saw Ben Lee open for somebody, and he was absolutely horrible.
 
 I've heard some of Ben Kweller, not bad though not great. Sounds more power pop than folk to me, though.