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Title: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: sweetcell on February 03, 2009, 05:05:51 pm
on the upside, this might make festival bookers rethink the strategy of having the same damn headliners at all festivals.  at a minimum, there is now one less to be a repeat of the others...

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Ticket Sales Sink Langerado (http://www.pollstar.com/blogs/news/archive/2009/02/03/646564.aspx)

It appears the 2009 Langerado Music Festival has fallen victim to the sluggish economy.

The seventh annual event, which was slated to take place March 6-8 in Miami?s Bicentennial Park, has been canceled.  Death Cab For Cutie, Modest Mouse, Slightly Stoopid, Snoop Dogg and The Pogues were among the bands and artists scheduled to appear at the festival.

Festival co-promoter Ethan Schwartz said slow ticket sales presented organizers with a difficult choice.

?Langerado has always put the fan experience first,? Schwartz explained. ?Unfortunately, during these difficult economic times, and facing a first year in a new venue, it?s become apparent that we cannot execute a production that lives up to the high standards of our past events.

?Putting Langerado on hold was the toughest decision we have ever had to make. We are very grateful for the support of the greater-Miami community and the music community during this difficult time.?

All tickets purchased will be refunded in the next 5-7 business days. Orders will be refunded in full, minus order processing fees. Shipping fees will also be credited for those who did not select free shipping.

lets hope this isn't a growing trend.
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: hutch on February 03, 2009, 05:46:01 pm
Miami is a cultural wasteland.
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: Venerable Bede on February 03, 2009, 05:51:42 pm
We need to get this guy to figure it all out for us. . .

(http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0S020oqvIhJVGIBEE.jzbkF/SIG=12jg57lbt/EXP=1233784234/**http%3A//www.sangrefria.com.es/images/csimiami/horatio-caine2.jpg)
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: vansmack on February 03, 2009, 06:40:04 pm
Remember the shit Seth took for canceling Lolla that year and the Economy wasn't even close to this bad...I still blame him though.
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: slappy on February 04, 2009, 12:08:16 am
Miami is a cultural wasteland.
Miami, Florida is cultural wasteland?
Have you ever been outside the airport or a shuttle to your Carnival cruise?
I guess when you take away Art Basel, Winter Music Conference, Ultra Music Festival, Miami Fashion Week, Jai alai, Little Havana, Little Haiti, South Beach, the Design District, Overtown, Coconut Grove, Key Biscayne ... it is a cultural wasteland.
I'm not saying it's the greatest place in the world, but culture is the one thing Miami isn't missing.
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: hutch on February 04, 2009, 12:16:25 am
Miami is a cultural wasteland.
Miami, Florida is cultural wasteland?
Have you ever been outside the airport or a shuttle to your Carnival cruise?
I guess when you take away Art Basel, Winter Music Conference, Ultra Music Festival, Miami Fashion Week, Jai alai, Little Havana, Little Haiti, South Beach, the Design District, Overtown, Coconut Grove, Key Biscayne ... it is a cultural wasteland.
I'm not saying it's the greatest place in the world, but culture is the one thing Miami isn't missing.

Ho hum..somebody always has to get testy...

Yes, I've been everywhere..I've lived there for many years..

Its a cultural wasteland. But I guess I should have qualified it and said in reference to rock and roll.

There's nothing there..try even finding a record store thats not a chain store (OK there's one I recall in South Beach but thats about it)

Try seeing live music there (not Cuban)

good luck with that..its completely the wrong place for this type of music festival

peace out holmes.
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: sweetcell on February 04, 2009, 12:34:03 am
Miami, Florida is cultural wasteland?

dude, seriously - pittsburgh has more culture than miami.  deal with it.
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on February 04, 2009, 08:26:29 am
If Miami has no culture, then what to Indio, CA and Bumfuck, TN have? I'll take Miami over most festival locations.

You're going to a music festival and you want to spend your down time in a record store? Loser.
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: sonickteam2 on February 04, 2009, 09:12:30 am
Miami, Florida is cultural wasteland?

dude, seriously - pittsburgh has more culture than miami.  deal with it.


dude, pittsburgh??? i suppose you could define culture as anything really, but i would rather spend one year in Miami then 10 minutes in Pittsburgh. well, i dont like the heat, so nevermind.

  Lollapalooza has by FAR the best festival location.  Although Virgin Fest is nice (but perhaps only cause i can get there in 20 mintues).

Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: bearman🐻 on February 04, 2009, 10:02:58 am
I love Iggy Pop's quote on Miami..."It's a sunny place for shady people". 'Nuff said. I don't think it's a cultural wasteland, I do think in general Florida is one of those places that I don't need to go and visit all that often. It's just sort of....meh.
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on February 04, 2009, 10:06:56 am
How about Bumbershoot Festival in downtown Seattle on Labor Day Weekend, during the month or so that it's 70 and sunny in Seattle everyday?

Or were you the oddball who for some reason hated Seattle?


Miami, Florida is cultural wasteland?

dude, seriously - pittsburgh has more culture than miami.  deal with it.


dude, pittsburgh??? i suppose you could define culture as anything really, but i would rather spend one year in Miami then 10 minutes in Pittsburgh. well, i dont like the heat, so nevermind.

  Lollapalooza has by FAR the best festival location.  Although Virgin Fest is nice (but perhaps only cause i can get there in 20 mintues).


Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on February 04, 2009, 10:09:31 am
I was born in Florida, moved away when I was 5, and haven't been back since I was 8. I guess I feel about the same way.

Though I have a professional conference in Miami in 2011 that I'll make every attempt to get to. Free airfare and four nights free hotel on Miami Beach? Sure, i'll take it, even in August.

I love Iggy Pop's quote on Miami..."It's a sunny place for shady people". 'Nuff said. I don't think it's a cultural wasteland, I do think in general Florida is one of those places that I don't need to go and visit all that often. It's just sort of....meh.
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: Relaxer on February 04, 2009, 10:23:39 am
I'd rather spend a month in New Jersey, Texas or Mogadishu than spend a week in Florida.

If Death Cab and Modest Mouse were supposed to be the draws for this festival, well no wonder it got shit-canned.
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: sonickteam2 on February 04, 2009, 10:59:43 am
How about Bumbershoot Festival in downtown Seattle on Labor Day Weekend, during the month or so that it's 70 and sunny in Seattle everyday?

Or were you the oddball who for some reason hated Seattle?

  Well, Seattle's fine.  we'll put it second though, Chicago still takes it, IMO. Austin is probably OK too but I dont like Texas and its like 100 degrees at that festival (or so it seems, i've never been)

  I didnt care too much for Seattle to be honest but I went it was October and it poured all 8 days i was there. It took me like 3 days to dry off when i got back here!
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on February 04, 2009, 11:12:44 am
Fair enough. Since I married into Chicago people, we should take advantage of the free lodging and go to Lolla someday. Maybe after my daughter outgrows her damn midday naps.

Bumbershoot is much, much cheaper than Lolla and most other festivals, though some locals still complain about ticket prices.

How about Bumbershoot Festival in downtown Seattle on Labor Day Weekend, during the month or so that it's 70 and sunny in Seattle everyday?

Or were you the oddball who for some reason hated Seattle?

  Well, Seattle's fine.  we'll put it second though, Chicago still takes it, IMO. Austin is probably OK too but I dont like Texas and its like 100 degrees at that festival (or so it seems, i've never been)

  I didnt care too much for Seattle to be honest but I went it was October and it poured all 8 days i was there. It took me like 3 days to dry off when i got back here!
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on February 04, 2009, 11:14:03 am
Seems like a muscle daddy like yourself would prefer Miami.

Are you in reality a scrawny, fair haired, pale skinned dude?


I'd rather spend a month in New Jersey, Texas or Mogadishu than spend a week in Florida.

If Death Cab and Modest Mouse were supposed to be the draws for this festival, well no wonder it got shit-canned.
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: sonickteam2 on February 04, 2009, 11:19:42 am
Fair enough. Since I married into Chicago people, we should take advantage of the free lodging and go to Lolla someday. Maybe after my daughter outgrows her damn midday naps.

Bumbershoot is much, much cheaper than Lolla and most other festivals, though some locals still complain about ticket prices.


  if you can get on that wicked cheap sale they have its only $40 a ticket for all 3 days!   We have friends in Chicago (though the year we went we did not, so we did stay at a hotel) and chicago is driving distance (though maybe not with a baby).  I dont know abuot Bumbleshoot but Lolla has many kid activities that would bore you to death but entertain the kid.

  I always wondered why bring kids to a rock festival if you are just going to hang out at the kids stage? Why not just go to Chuck-e cheese and save a few hundred bucks.
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: sweetcell on February 04, 2009, 11:36:30 am
I always wondered why bring kids to a rock festival if you are just going to hang out at the kids stage? Why not just go to Chuck-e cheese and save a few hundred bucks.

if both parents go to the festival, they can split the time spent at the kiddie stage so one can occasionally catch some of the other stages.  plus, at kidzapalloza, they had a few interesting acts that i wouldn't have minded catching.  jeff tweedy doing an acoustic set for kids?  might have been good!

i might already have posted this, but lolla'09 = 7-9 august.
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on February 04, 2009, 11:40:49 am
Are those supercheap tickets you speak of for Bumbershoot, or for Lolla? I know B-shoot has those, but didn't know Lolla did.

Fair enough. Since I married into Chicago people, we should take advantage of the free lodging and go to Lolla someday. Maybe after my daughter outgrows her damn midday naps.

Bumbershoot is much, much cheaper than Lolla and most other festivals, though some locals still complain about ticket prices.


  if you can get on that wicked cheap sale they have its only $40 a ticket for all 3 days!   We have friends in Chicago (though the year we went we did not, so we did stay at a hotel) and chicago is driving distance (though maybe not with a baby).  I dont know abuot Bumbleshoot but Lolla has many kid activities that would bore you to death but entertain the kid.

  I always wondered why bring kids to a rock festival if you are just going to hang out at the kids stage? Why not just go to Chuck-e cheese and save a few hundred bucks.
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on February 04, 2009, 11:45:43 am
My daughter is a rocker already. She don't need no kiddie stage!

Actually, your idea is a good one.

We brought our one year old to a day of Bumber this year, and she did fine. She fell asleep for her nap during Neko Case, then fell asleep for good at night in her mom's arms during Nada Surf and M. Ward. You just have to pick the right artists that will make kids fall asleep.

Of course, she has now entered a stage where she seems at a more heightened awareness, and spontaneous sleep might not happen...

Sorry to make this about babies.

Sure, we could leave the kid with the grandparents, but we like taking her everywhere we can. Plus, how would she breastfeed?

I always wondered why bring kids to a rock festival if you are just going to hang out at the kids stage? Why not just go to Chuck-e cheese and save a few hundred bucks.

if both parents go to the festival, they can split the time spent at the kiddie stage so one can occasionally catch some of the other stages.  plus, at kidzapalloza, they had a few interesting acts that i wouldn't have minded catching.  jeff tweedy doing an acoustic set for kids?  might have been good!

i might already have posted this, but lolla'09 = 7-9 august.
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: sonickteam2 on February 04, 2009, 11:55:29 am
I always wondered why bring kids to a rock festival if you are just going to hang out at the kids stage? Why not just go to Chuck-e cheese and save a few hundred bucks.

if both parents go to the festival, they can split the time spent at the kiddie stage so one can occasionally catch some of the other stages.  plus, at kidzapalloza, they had a few interesting acts that i wouldn't have minded catching.  jeff tweedy doing an acoustic set for kids?  might have been good!

i might already have posted this, but lolla'09 = 7-9 august.


awesome, i'll be away on the 1st-2nd and thought i would miss it.  I think we'll be attending again, esp if we can get those $45 tickets (and yes charlie, Lolla does/did have those)
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: sweetcell on February 04, 2009, 12:07:15 pm
Are those supercheap tickets you speak of for Bumbershoot, or for Lolla? I know B-shoot has those, but didn't know Lolla did.


lolla has a VERY limited number of cheap presale tickets @ $60 each - i believe that less than 2000 were available last year.  they are known as "golden tickets".  they are very hard to come by: their exact time of onsale isn't announced, they sell out in a few minutes, the website often crashes as soon as they go on sale, etc.  i've been lucky and scored some for the last two years.  otherwise, last year they had early-bird tickets for $190.  i wonder if they'll drop ticket prices this year?  doesn't look like coachella did...
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on February 04, 2009, 12:42:50 pm
Do they have single day Lolla tickets? And do they only go onsale after a certain time if the three day passes don't sell out?

Are those supercheap tickets you speak of for Bumbershoot, or for Lolla? I know B-shoot has those, but didn't know Lolla did.


lolla has a VERY limited number of cheap presale tickets @ $60 each - i believe that less than 2000 were available last year.  they are known as "golden tickets".  they are very hard to come by: their exact time of onsale isn't announced, they sell out in a few minutes, the website often crashes as soon as they go on sale, etc.  i've been lucky and scored some for the last two years.  otherwise, last year they had early-bird tickets for $190.  i wonder if they'll drop ticket prices this year?  doesn't look like coachella did...
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: sweetcell on February 04, 2009, 12:52:23 pm
Do they have single day Lolla tickets? And do they only go onsale after a certain time if the three day passes don't sell out?

yes and yes... although i don't remember 3-day passes ever selling out before single-days going on sale.  single-days have sold out quickly (like last year's friday, b/c of radiohead) so if you do want a single-day, buy it as soon as they go on sale.  luckily the full line-up is public by then.

see you, celeste and the bundle in grant park this year?
Title: Re: tough economic times hit the music festival industry: Langerado
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on February 04, 2009, 01:00:30 pm
Not this year, but maybe 2010.

Do they have single day Lolla tickets? And do they only go onsale after a certain time if the three day passes don't sell out?

yes and yes... although i don't remember 3-day passes ever selling out before single-days going on sale.  single-days have sold out quickly (like last year's friday, b/c of radiohead) so if you do want a single-day, buy it as soon as they go on sale.  luckily the full line-up is public by then.

see you, celeste and the bundle in grant park this year?