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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: atomicfront on April 24, 2013, 01:14:41 pm
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I am going to say Beach House. Two masterpieces of albums in a row. Plus they are unique.
Runner up would be Arcade Fire.
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Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. Huge and consistently good yet always evolving catalog, still putting out great and relevant records. Great musicians, unbelievable live band.
2nd choice would be Spiritualized for a lot of the same reasons, though a completely different experience.
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Dumbest thread ever. Had to have been started by a 15 year old boy.
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Dumbest thread ever. Had to have been started by a 15 year old boy.
It is just an opinion thread. If you don't have one don't reply.
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Of Monsters and Men, because the singer looks like Chaz Bono.
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Of Monsters and Men, because the singer looks like Chaz Bono.
I am guessing most of you don't even know any bands that are currently producing good music. So you come up with lame jokes.
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The Lumineers, because it makes me want to wear skinnier jeans.
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The Lumineers, because it makes me want to wear skinnier jeans.
are you bald?
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I do think an argument can be made that Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds have thrown down the gauntlet....Any other bands writing music, cutting records and performing live at that level?
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The Lumineers, because it makes me want to wear skinnier jeans.
are you bald?
Sure
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Wilco, hands down.
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The Lumineers, because it makes me want to wear skinnier jeans.
are you bald?
Sure
Figured as much.
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Wilco, hands down.
you know how you know this isn't true?
when you go see them live pretty much all the songs people like are the ones jay bennett was involved with... the stuff on the past many albums just isn't that great...
let me frame it another way... if wilco had never cut being there, summerteeth, or yankee hotel foxtrot would anybody be paying attention?
the highlights of nick cave's show at the strathmore were arguably jubilee street and higgs bosom blues (sic)...two new songs.
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The Evens
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Wilco, hands down.
you know how you know this isn't true?
when you go see them live pretty much all the songs people like are the ones jay bennett was involved with... the stuff on the past many albums just isn't that great...
let me frame it another way... if wilco had never cut being there, summerteeth, or yankee hotel foxtrot would anybody be paying attention?
the highlights of nick cave's show at the strathmore were arguably jubilee street and higgs bosom blues (sic)...two new songs.
I have seen Wilco twice live and found them incredibly boring. I dont like their recorded material either though.
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Wilco, hands down.
you know how you know this isn't true?
when you go see them live pretty much all the songs people like are the ones jay bennett was involved with... the stuff on the past many albums just isn't that great...
let me frame it another way... if wilco had never cut being there, summerteeth, or yankee hotel foxtrot would anybody be paying attention?
the highlights of nick cave's show at the strathmore were arguably jubilee street and higgs bosom blues (sic)...two new songs.
I have seen Wilco twice live and found them incredibly boring. I dont like their recorded material either though.
well..their new stuff (meaning the past decade) is largely incredibly boring...but Tweedy is smart and he knows how to make a set list..so he mixes in a few old chestnuts among the new stuff and then ends with a bang of new songs and everybody is happy...
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Well I guess Wilco is INDEED boring. Two guys said it on the internet, so it must be true!
Wilco, hands down.
you know how you know this isn't true?
when you go see them live pretty much all the songs people like are the ones jay bennett was involved with... the stuff on the past many albums just isn't that great...
let me frame it another way... if wilco had never cut being there, summerteeth, or yankee hotel foxtrot would anybody be paying attention?
the highlights of nick cave's show at the strathmore were arguably jubilee street and higgs bosom blues (sic)...two new songs.
I have seen Wilco twice live and found them incredibly boring. I dont like their recorded material either though.
well..their new stuff (meaning the past decade) is largely incredibly boring...but Tweedy is smart and he knows how to make a set list..so he mixes in a few old chestnuts among the new stuff and then ends with a bang of new songs and everybody is happy...
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Well I guess Wilco is INDEED boring. Two guys said it on the internet, so it must be true!
Wilco, hands down.
you know how you know this isn't true?
when you go see them live pretty much all the songs people like are the ones jay bennett was involved with... the stuff on the past many albums just isn't that great...
let me frame it another way... if wilco had never cut being there, summerteeth, or yankee hotel foxtrot would anybody be paying attention?
the highlights of nick cave's show at the strathmore were arguably jubilee street and higgs bosom blues (sic)...two new songs.
I have seen Wilco twice live and found them incredibly boring. I dont like their recorded material either though.
well..their new stuff (meaning the past decade) is largely incredibly boring...but Tweedy is smart and he knows how to make a set list..so he mixes in a few old chestnuts among the new stuff and then ends with a bang of new songs and everybody is happy...
What?
Its not two guys.. have you seen them recently? the tracks people get into are the old ones...sorry man...its not an opinion but an observation.... do you have a different observation? if so please share it... of course you won't be at their show... ;D
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Well I guess Wilco is INDEED boring. Two guys said it on the internet, so it must be true!
(http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Beavis-Butthead-p21.jpg)
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Well I guess Wilco is INDEED boring. Two guys said it on the internet, so it must be true!
(http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Beavis-Butthead-p21.jpg)
well...AC/DC is the greatest band ever..... fact.
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I like Wilco, but I admit the last few shows I've attended have been practically carbon copies of each other.
And I mostly mentioned them because I know how much the thread starter loves them.
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I like Wilco, but I admit the last few shows I've attended have been practically carbon copies of each other.
And I mostly mentioned them because I know how much the thread starter loves them.
I like Wilco....I loved Wilco in the late 1990s..I was there man!!!! :)
When Jay Bennett was fired in another typical Tweedy dick move the band went south..they lost the sense of fun and became more of a prog rock outfit... Nels Cline is a great guitarist but he doesn't make the kind of music I like...
I still go see them every once in a while and hope to be there for the Bob show... if so I'll enjoy seeing Wilco but they are way past their moment...on the way down..
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Well I guess Wilco is INDEED boring. Two guys said it on the internet, so it must be true!
Wilco, hands down.
you know how you know this isn't true?
when you go see them live pretty much all the songs people like are the ones jay bennett was involved with... the stuff on the past many albums just isn't that great...
let me frame it another way... if wilco had never cut being there, summerteeth, or yankee hotel foxtrot would anybody be paying attention?
the highlights of nick cave's show at the strathmore were arguably jubilee street and higgs bosom blues (sic)...two new songs.
I have seen Wilco twice live and found them incredibly boring. I dont like their recorded material either though.
well..their new stuff (meaning the past decade) is largely incredibly boring...but Tweedy is smart and he knows how to make a set list..so he mixes in a few old chestnuts among the new stuff and then ends with a bang of new songs and everybody is happy...
It is our opinion. And at least we came up with an opinion.
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Did U2 break up?
Because I'm pretty sure these threads are banned until that happens.
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Did U2 break up?
Because I'm pretty sure these threads are banned until that happens.
To be the greatest band in the world you have to remain relevant..you can't just be a greatest hits act...you can't be a band that has recorded like five albums since the last one but refuses to release them because you lack confidence they are any good (by the way I wish they would release their stuff with Dangermouse)...you have to be somewhere even remotely near the vanguard not hugging the rear...doesn't mean their live show isn't good..
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i believe it's a toss up between Mumford & sons, and Amanda Palmer.
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Yes, because Nick Cave is so relevant. What does "relevant" even mean? Relevant to who? 40 year old "men" who spend their Saturdays at record stores rather than playing with their kids?
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i believe it's a toss up between Mumford & sons, and Amanda Palmer.
Amanda Palmer definitely wins in that battle.
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Yes, because Nick Cave is so relevant. What does "relevant" even mean? Relevant to who? 40 year old "men" who spend their Saturdays at record stores rather than playing with their kids?
Does hutch have kids?
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Yes, because Nick Cave is so relevant. What does "relevant" even mean? Relevant to who? 40 year old "men" who spend their Saturdays at record stores rather than playing with their kids?
I would say relevant to people who love music...and who like to make music...
Come to think of it perhaps your definition of man is different from mine.. to me a man, even when he has kids, continues living life... kids don't mean you stop going to concerts or record stores... now a castrated man believes that he has to be at home at all times taking orders from his woman on what he can and can't do... that's not a man, that's a has been.
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Yes, because Nick Cave is so relevant. What does "relevant" even mean? Relevant to who? 40 year old "men" who spend their Saturdays at record stores rather than playing with their kids?
Does hutch have kids?
there was a picture here but James Ford is a creep so I had to remove it.
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I think most people in the world would claim they love music. However, most people probably have never heard the name "Nick Cave".
Of course, I guess Hutch gets to define what "people who love music" is.
Yes, because Nick Cave is so relevant. What does "relevant" even mean? Relevant to who? 40 year old "men" who spend their Saturdays at record stores rather than playing with their kids?
I would say relevant to people who love music...and who like to make music...
Come to think of it perhaps your definition of man is different from mine.. to me a man, even when he has kids, continues living life... kids don't mean you stop going to concerts or record stores... now a castrated man believes that he has to be at home at all times taking orders from his woman on what he can and can't do... that's not a man, that's a has been.
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Regardless of your opinion on U2, they do continue to put out records and then tour those records. The fact that they have 30 years of songs that are beloved by millions doesn't make them relevant. Which is really a stupid metric anyway. U2 aren't relevant despite the fact that their tours are huge sellers, their back catalog still sells and their new albums sell.
I guess what you call relevant are bands that sell 2,000 copies of their record, play a half-filled U St Music Hall but have really cool hair.
Also, this:
relevant to people who love music...and who like to make music...
might be the dumbest thing I've read on the Internet in a whole week. "Relevant to people who love music" Well THERE is a solid metric.
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Cute kids, but a thought:
I't probably not a good idea to put pictures of your kids on an internet message board. Too many creeps out there.
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I think most people in the world would claim they love music. However, most people probably have never heard the name "Nick Cave".
Of course, I guess Hutch gets to define what "people who love music" is.
Yes, because Nick Cave is so relevant. What does "relevant" even mean? Relevant to who? 40 year old "men" who spend their Saturdays at record stores rather than playing with their kids?
I would say relevant to people who love music...and who like to make music...
Come to think of it perhaps your definition of man is different from mine.. to me a man, even when he has kids, continues living life... kids don't mean you stop going to concerts or record stores... now a castrated man believes that he has to be at home at all times taking orders from his woman on what he can and can't do... that's not a man, that's a has been.
what are you guys on? Nick Cave's last album debuted at number one in a bunch of countries and was top 10 in the US..
I'm not making the argument that sales determine relevance but Cave's new album has sold its fair share..by some measures its his most successful album yet.
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Regardless of your opinion on U2, they do continue to put out records
actually NO.. they have recorded a bunch of records since the last one and have not put them out... because they're U2 they can afford infinite studio time and whatever producer is the flavor of the month but they are not putting out records....
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Hate on, haters...best band in the world
http://blog.priceonomics.com/post/48216173465/the-business-of-phish
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actually NO.. they have recorded a bunch of records since the last one and have not put them out... because they're U2 they can afford infinite studio time and whatever producer is the flavor of the month but they are not putting out records....
So you're saying that they don't continue to put out new records? I don't give a shit about all that other nonsense you're writing about, I want to know if you believe they are no longer putting out new records.
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Cute kids, but a thought:
I't probably not a good idea to put pictures of your kids on an internet message board. Too many creeps out there.
Thanks for all of your kind words. This is really a wonderful time for both of us.
And since some of y'all asked, here's some pics from her first hours on earth. Be nice, I know I'm an old man/dork! Thankfully, she looks just like her mommy.
LINK REMOVED BY SMACKIE
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This is an opinion thread. So if in your opinion the band is putting out the best albums in the world now than you can list them. All other metrics are unimportant.
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I'll figure this out.
Thanks for your patience....
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actually NO.. they have recorded a bunch of records since the last one and have not put them out... because they're U2 they can afford infinite studio time and whatever producer is the flavor of the month but they are not putting out records....
So you're saying that they don't continue to put out new records? I don't give a shit about all that other nonsense you're writing about, I want to know if you believe they are no longer putting out new records.
U2 has not released a new studio record since 2009, but that does not mean that they won't put one out again (or does it?). Lots of bands I like have not put out records in a few years: ted leo; new pornographers, okkervil river, hold steady...to name a few...
We all know that the best band in the world today actually is: whatever band makes you the happiest to hear (and of course CLUTCH). The rest of this is all trolling...
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actually NO.. they have recorded a bunch of records since the last one and have not put them out... because they're U2 they can afford infinite studio time and whatever producer is the flavor of the month but they are not putting out records....
So you're saying that they don't continue to put out new records? I don't give a shit about all that other nonsense you're writing about, I want to know if you believe they are no longer putting out new records.
U2 has not released a new studio record since 2009, but that does not mean that they won't put one out again (or does it?). Lots of bands I like have not put out records in a few years: ted leo; new pornographers, okkervil river, hold steady...to name a few...
We all know that the best band in the world today actually is: whatever band makes you the happiest to hear (and of course CLUTCH). The rest of this is all trolling...
Doesn't Okkervil have a new album coming out soon?
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I came here to say Nick Cave. Glad people had already done it.
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Thanks for the link removal. Not something you think about when your kid is a few days old, but definitely something you think about when they are 5+.
Cute kids, but a thought:
I't probably not a good idea to put pictures of your kids on an internet message board. Too many creeps out there.
Thanks for all of your kind words. This is really a wonderful time for both of us.
And since some of y'all asked, here's some pics from her first hours on earth. Be nice, I know I'm an old man/dork! Thankfully, she looks just like her mommy.
LINK REMOVED BY SMACKIE
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Thanks for the link removal. Not something you think about when your kid is a few days old, but definitely something you think about when they are 5+.
Cute kids, but a thought:
I't probably not a good idea to put pictures of your kids on an internet message board. Too many creeps out there.
Thanks for all of your kind words. This is really a wonderful time for both of us.
And since some of y'all asked, here's some pics from her first hours on earth. Be nice, I know I'm an old man/dork! Thankfully, she looks just like her mommy.
LINK REMOVED BY SMACKIE
You worry too much.
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You worry too much.
Ageing Thread (http://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=23213.0)
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charlie nakatestes, japanese golfer.
wut
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Menahan Street Band
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There's plenty more Eric Toth's out there.
Thanks for the link removal. Not something you think about when your kid is a few days old, but definitely something you think about when they are 5+.
Cute kids, but a thought:
I't probably not a good idea to put pictures of your kids on an internet message board. Too many creeps out there.
Thanks for all of your kind words. This is really a wonderful time for both of us.
And since some of y'all asked, here's some pics from her first hours on earth. Be nice, I know I'm an old man/dork! Thankfully, she looks just like her mommy.
LINK REMOVED BY SMACKIE
You worry too much.
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My point is U2 is recording plenty of albums and not releasing them because they don't think they cut it...
that's not the world's best band..
the world's best band knows where they're heading, what they're doing, they go in and cut an album in a few weeks, release it and stand behind it..
what did U2 do after their last album was a relative tanking? They blamed it on the fans actually.
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There's plenty more Eric Toth's out there.
so what is he going to do with a picture of a kid? Jerk off to it?
I personally don't see any reason not to share a picture of my kids...but I removed it just not to have to deal with the pc police which is what you are...not worth the hassle.. personally I find it offensive that you would even go there to question my parenting or what kind of "man" i am because I went to a record store instead of playing with my kids as you wrote.....I think you crossed the line there.. its one thing to argue strongly about music.. but when you start personalizing it like that and getting people's kids involved.. i think thats piss poor and you get the asshole of the week award.
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Maybe not the best band in the world, but right now nothing makes me happier than to see this: http://dangerousminds.net/comments/the_other_black_flag_re_union_40_scorching_minutes_of_keith_morris_and_chuc
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Sorry I was slow to reply to this. Today wasn't the usual waste your workday on a message board day. Rather, I spent half the day doing Take You Kid to Work Day and the other half struggling to catch up on work.
In all honesty, my comment was meant to make fun of my perception of a typical Nick Cave fan....40 year old dads (do hot 25 yr old women listen to Nick Cave? I think not!) desperate to hold onto their hipster cred, likely spends too much time in record stores (whatever they are) at the expense of family time.
If you want to take that as a personal criticism of your parenting skills, go ahead. I apologize if it made you feel bad, though it probably didn't. And you probably enjoyed calling me an asshole. So you probably got pleasure from the exchange. It probably made you feel like a real tough guy! But it wasn't meant as a personal criticism, because I don't even know you.. As long as your partner and your kids think you're a good parent, that's all that matters, right?
I'm not sure what you mean by "pc police" either. i'm not comfortable putting pictures of my kid online....don't do Facebook or Tweeter, but tolerate my wife doing it....but if that's your thing, post away. Maybe you could start a kids pictures thread?
And what the hell, I'll play the stupid game. Best bands in the world? For varying reasons:
Rolling Stones
Yo La Tengo
Wilco
My Morning Jacket
Dr. Dog
I won't more people with my reasons, because nobody cares.
Au Revoir
There's plenty more Eric Toth's out there.
so what is he going to do with a picture of a kid? Jerk off to it?
I personally don't see any reason not to share a picture of my kids...but I removed it just not to have to deal with the pc police which is what you are...not worth the hassle.. personally I find it offensive that you would even go there to question my parenting or what kind of "man" i am because I went to a record store instead of playing with my kids as you wrote.....I think you crossed the line there.. its one thing to argue strongly about music.. but when you start personalizing it like that and getting people's kids involved.. i think thats piss poor and you get the asshole of the week award.
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You've gone soft. Now post some photos of you and your kid at work.
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You'll have to friend my wife on facebook, like all the other old time 9:30 boardies are.
You've gone soft. Now post some photos of you and your kid at work.
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For the record, there was a boatload of hot 25 year old women at Nick Cave's Strathmore show.
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For the record, there was a boatload of hot 25 year old women at Nick Cave's Strathmore show.
Can definitely confirm this.
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For the record, there was a boatload of hot 25 year old women at Nick Cave's Strathmore show.
They were all there with 40 year old dudes though, right? ;D
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For the record, there was a boatload of hot 25 year old women at Nick Cave's Strathmore show.
They were all there with 40 year old dudes though, right? ;D
nope. the missus and i stayed home.
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Sorry I was slow to reply to this. Today wasn't the usual waste your workday on a message board day. Rather, I spent half the day doing Take You Kid to Work Day and the other half struggling to catch up on work.
In all honesty, my comment was meant to make fun of my perception of a typical Nick Cave fan....40 year old dads (do hot 25 yr old women listen to Nick Cave? I think not!) desperate to hold onto their hipster cred, likely spends too much time in record stores (whatever they are) at the expense of family time.
If you want to take that as a personal criticism of your parenting skills, go ahead. I apologize if it made you feel bad, though it probably didn't. And you probably enjoyed calling me an asshole. So you probably got pleasure from the exchange. It probably made you feel like a real tough guy! But it wasn't meant as a personal criticism, because I don't even know you.. As long as your partner and your kids think you're a good parent, that's all that matters, right?
I'm not sure what you mean by "pc police" either. i'm not comfortable putting pictures of my kid online....don't do Facebook or Tweeter, but tolerate my wife doing it....but if that's your thing, post away. Maybe you could start a kids pictures thread?
And what the hell, I'll play the stupid game. Best bands in the world? For varying reasons:
Rolling Stones
Yo La Tengo
Wilco
My Morning Jacket
Dr. Dog
I won't more people with my reasons, because nobody cares.
Au Revoir
There's plenty more Eric Toth's out there.
so what is he going to do with a picture of a kid? Jerk off to it?
I personally don't see any reason not to share a picture of my kids...but I removed it just not to have to deal with the pc police which is what you are...not worth the hassle.. personally I find it offensive that you would even go there to question my parenting or what kind of "man" i am because I went to a record store instead of playing with my kids as you wrote.....I think you crossed the line there.. its one thing to argue strongly about music.. but when you start personalizing it like that and getting people's kids involved.. i think thats piss poor and you get the asshole of the week award.
You really think the Rolling Stones are the best band in the world today? They havne't recorded anything worth listening to in 30 years.
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Haha. My thoughts exactly.
At the risk of sounding sexist, when there are hoards of hot 25 year old women at a show, and they're not attached to some guy who dragged them to the show, it's almost a 100% certainty that the show is by some crappy band (that atomicfront probably likes).
Am I right?
For the record, there was a boatload of hot 25 year old women at Nick Cave's Strathmore show.
They were all there with 40 year old dudes though, right? ;D
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My list wasn't in any particular order.
I agree that they haven't done anything worthwhile since the early 80's. Tattoo You was their last great album.
I would also say that if i could have free tickets to see any single band that still exists play a show at the 9:30 Club, it would be the Rolling Stones.
Sorry I was slow to reply to this. Today wasn't the usual waste your workday on a message board day. Rather, I spent half the day doing Take You Kid to Work Day and the other half struggling to catch up on work.
In all honesty, my comment was meant to make fun of my perception of a typical Nick Cave fan....40 year old dads (do hot 25 yr old women listen to Nick Cave? I think not!) desperate to hold onto their hipster cred, likely spends too much time in record stores (whatever they are) at the expense of family time.
If you want to take that as a personal criticism of your parenting skills, go ahead. I apologize if it made you feel bad, though it probably didn't. And you probably enjoyed calling me an asshole. So you probably got pleasure from the exchange. It probably made you feel like a real tough guy! But it wasn't meant as a personal criticism, because I don't even know you.. As long as your partner and your kids think you're a good parent, that's all that matters, right?
I'm not sure what you mean by "pc police" either. i'm not comfortable putting pictures of my kid online....don't do Facebook or Tweeter, but tolerate my wife doing it....but if that's your thing, post away. Maybe you could start a kids pictures thread?
And what the hell, I'll play the stupid game. Best bands in the world? For varying reasons:
Rolling Stones
Yo La Tengo
Wilco
My Morning Jacket
Dr. Dog
I won't more people with my reasons, because nobody cares.
Au Revoir
There's plenty more Eric Toth's out there.
so what is he going to do with a picture of a kid? Jerk off to it?
I personally don't see any reason not to share a picture of my kids...but I removed it just not to have to deal with the pc police which is what you are...not worth the hassle.. personally I find it offensive that you would even go there to question my parenting or what kind of "man" i am because I went to a record store instead of playing with my kids as you wrote.....I think you crossed the line there.. its one thing to argue strongly about music.. but when you start personalizing it like that and getting people's kids involved.. i think thats piss poor and you get the asshole of the week award.
You really think the Rolling Stones are the best band in the world today? They havne't recorded anything worth listening to in 30 years.
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Maybe not the best band in the world, but right now nothing makes me happier than to see this: http://dangerousminds.net/comments/the_other_black_flag_re_union_40_scorching_minutes_of_keith_morris_and_chuc
That article made me realize Black Flag are the Van Halen of hardcore punk.
It also had a link on the side to a good article that is very true.
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/lloyd-cole-is-a-musical-genius-and-its-high-time-that-everyone-realized-it (http://dangerousminds.net/comments/lloyd-cole-is-a-musical-genius-and-its-high-time-that-everyone-realized-it)
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Maybe not the best band in the world, but right now nothing makes me happier than to see this: http://dangerousminds.net/comments/the_other_black_flag_re_union_40_scorching_minutes_of_keith_morris_and_chuc
That article made me realize Black Flag are the Van Halen of hardcore punk.
It also had a link on the side to a good article that is very true.
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/lloyd-cole-is-a-musical-genius-and-its-high-time-that-everyone-realized-it (http://dangerousminds.net/comments/lloyd-cole-is-a-musical-genius-and-its-high-time-that-everyone-realized-it)
The Van Halen of hardcore? In what way?
Yes, Lloyd Cole is pretty much a genius. Great songwriter. Saw him at the old club too, which was outstanding.
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My wife and I once attended a seated Lloyd Cole solo acoustic show in Denver at an old movie theater while on vacation. Despite it's early start, my wife fell asleep at the show.
I'm going to blame the time difference.
Maybe not the best band in the world, but right now nothing makes me happier than to see this: http://dangerousminds.net/comments/the_other_black_flag_re_union_40_scorching_minutes_of_keith_morris_and_chuc
That article made me realize Black Flag are the Van Halen of hardcore punk.
It also had a link on the side to a good article that is very true.
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/lloyd-cole-is-a-musical-genius-and-its-high-time-that-everyone-realized-it (http://dangerousminds.net/comments/lloyd-cole-is-a-musical-genius-and-its-high-time-that-everyone-realized-it)
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sufjan stevens.
the end.
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The Van Halen of hardcore? In what way?
Yes, Lloyd Cole is pretty much a genius. Great songwriter. Saw him at the old club too, which was outstanding.
In that both are So Cal bands started by musically intelligent guitarists (both into everything from classical music to Black Sabbath), worked with their brothers, both a revolving door of singers, forming and reforming, former members sticking to the guitarists by getting together and performing, both have iconic band symbols.
I don't mean it as something bad ... I have up to early 80's records by both. You could also add both haven't released anything decent since '84.
They both obviously are completely different on ethos.
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The Van Halen of hardcore? In what way?
Yes, Lloyd Cole is pretty much a genius. Great songwriter. Saw him at the old club too, which was outstanding.
In that both are So Cal bands started by musically intelligent guitarists (both into everything from classical music to Black Sabbath), worked with their brothers, both a revolving door of singers, forming and reforming, former members sticking to the guitarists by getting together and performing, both have iconic band symbols.
I don't mean it as something bad ... I have up to early 80's records by both. You could also add both haven't released anything decent since '84.
They both obviously are completely different on ethos.
I think Henry Rollins is basically the singer that everyone knows from Black Flag. Keith Morris made his fame in the Circle Jerks.
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Didn't you light me up for saying this exact thing after the Wolf Trap show?
Well I guess Wilco is INDEED boring. Two guys said it on the internet, so it must be true!
Wilco, hands down.
you know how you know this isn't true?
when you go see them live pretty much all the songs people like are the ones jay bennett was involved with... the stuff on the past many albums just isn't that great...
let me frame it another way... if wilco had never cut being there, summerteeth, or yankee hotel foxtrot would anybody be paying attention?
the highlights of nick cave's show at the strathmore were arguably jubilee street and higgs bosom blues (sic)...two new songs.
I have seen Wilco twice live and found them incredibly boring. I dont like their recorded material either though.
well..their new stuff (meaning the past decade) is largely incredibly boring...but Tweedy is smart and he knows how to make a set list..so he mixes in a few old chestnuts among the new stuff and then ends with a bang of new songs and everybody is happy...
What?
Its not two guys.. have you seen them recently? the tracks people get into are the old ones...sorry man...its not an opinion but an observation.... do you have a different observation? if so please share it... of course you won't be at their show... ;D
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Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPHcN5FP5Xc