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Title: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: rich_WDC on July 25, 2019, 02:45:53 pm
https://www.pollstar.com/article/merriweather-post-pavilion-breathes-life-into-woodstock-50-138531
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: joeposh on July 25, 2019, 03:48:04 pm
Just saw this. Will be fascinated to see if this can come together -- seems like a much more realistic plan than shopping the fest across every town in upstate NY.

Not a lot of turnaround time, tour routing and a Pumpkins/Noel Gallagher date currently on the books means they'd have to make decisions and announcements pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on July 25, 2019, 04:13:31 pm
a Pumpkins/Noel Gallagher date currently on the books means they'd have to make decisions and announcements pretty quickly.
Both those frontmen would absolutely love to say they played "Woodstock".
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on July 25, 2019, 04:31:34 pm
Pitchfork is saying this is happening. Another article says tickets will be $180-595/day and will be a fundraiser around climate change and voter turnout.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Here's the thing on July 25, 2019, 04:35:56 pm
Should we start guessing bands or do are we predicting that the bands originally tied to the show will stay involved. I have a feeling that Seth had many confirmations before allowing IMP to be tied to it.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on July 25, 2019, 04:55:15 pm
Should we start guessing bands or do are we predicting that the bands originally tied to the show will stay involved.
I would imagine the vast majority are bands originally tied to the show. SP + Noel Gallagher will probably get absorbed into this as someone else pointed out. Would be surprised if there's a headliner added outside of the bands on the original poster.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: grateful tagle zuppi pizzaboli on July 25, 2019, 05:11:21 pm
The Raconteurs, on the original W50 lineup, are slated to play the Anthem on the 17th
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: grateful tagle zuppi pizzaboli on July 25, 2019, 05:15:10 pm
With the evolving logistics, I do hope Seth can still score Robert Plant and Greta Van Fleet, but schedule for the same day.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: gavroche on July 25, 2019, 05:24:28 pm
will be a fundraiser around climate change and voter turnout.

Totally ambivalent about this, but I hope it raises money for a good cause.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 25, 2019, 06:04:19 pm
Washington Post reporting that it's a done deal (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/woodstock-50th-anniversary-celebration-relocates-to-merriweather-post-pavilion-in-maryland/2019/07/25/43b18900-af14-11e9-a0c9-6d2d7818f3da_story.html?utm_term=.a26c07a24881)
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 25, 2019, 06:23:24 pm
Should we start guessing bands or do are we predicting that the bands originally tied to the show will stay involved.
The three night run of And More, will still happen

(https://www.woodstock.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/lineup_poster_18x24.jpg)
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 25, 2019, 06:51:33 pm
wow might get pussy riot and boy genius in DC!
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: joeposh on July 25, 2019, 10:36:13 pm
Pollstar got an interview with Seth earlier today that's honestly pretty funny.

Made it very clear that they have nothing to do with booking the talent, and won't make any moves with Smashing Pumpkins and Noel until they are absolutely sure there's a show to put on (i.e. that Lang has retained a proper line-up of artists). Also indicates that the fest could be as little as one day (if it happens at all) and they would have additional capacity restrictions if there's a Friday portion (due to business in the area during the day).

https://www.pollstar.com/article/seth-hurwitz-on-merriweather-hosting-woodstock-50-we-are-ready-to-do-a-show-if-they-have-one-138532
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Space Freely on July 26, 2019, 07:29:04 am
Hard pass, even if they got Wilco on the lineup.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on July 26, 2019, 08:15:37 am
Made it very clear that they have nothing to do with booking the talent, and won't make any moves with Smashing Pumpkins and Noel until they are absolutely sure there's a show to put on (i.e. that Lang has retained a proper line-up of artists).
This makes me doubtful its going to happen, to be honest. I'll (rightfully) slag Seth off for some stuff but he wouldn't throw his name behind something if it was going to be a complete mess (FreeFests aside). This is a soft divorcing of himself from the event already.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: IMAmoose24 on July 26, 2019, 08:40:25 am
Made it very clear that they have nothing to do with booking the talent, and won't make any moves with Smashing Pumpkins and Noel until they are absolutely sure there's a show to put on (i.e. that Lang has retained a proper line-up of artists).
This makes me doubtful its going to happen, to be honest. I'll (rightfully) slag Seth off for some stuff but he wouldn't throw his name behind something if it was going to be a complete mess (FreeFests aside). This is a soft divorcing of himself from the event already.

This is what makes the Bloomberg, NYT and Pitchfork reporting curious. I have no doubt Seth was/is considering the possibilities but it just seems like a logistical nightmare and a bigger risk than it is worth.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: hutch on July 26, 2019, 09:03:18 am
No Fogerty or Jay-Z
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 26, 2019, 12:06:58 pm
I'd say Ringo Star and Santana are out too
as they like Fogerty (18th) are scheduled at Bethel (original woodstock site) on 16th and 17th

One insider said the Merriweather Post option is a non-starter: “The bands won’t do it. They were contracted to play a show in Watkins Glen.” A second source backs up this assertion noting that many of the top-drawing artists have already been paid and are simply waiting for the festival to cancel itself so they can keep their fees.

billy is saying it's not happening
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAaN8hiWkAEQC24?format=jpg&name=large)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAaN8hiXYAARh6L?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: grateful tagle zuppi pizzaboli on July 26, 2019, 02:10:05 pm
Organizers of the Woodstock 50 festival have formally released all artists scheduled to play from their contracts, Billboard has learned.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/touring/8523989/woodstock-50-releases-all-artists-lineup-maryland-move-venue
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: MAGA 2020 on July 26, 2019, 11:03:09 pm
This has firefest 2 written all over it minus being stranded on some shitty island.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 27, 2019, 07:05:57 pm
Tickets are gonna be free you say? (https://pitchfork.com/news/woodstock-50-tickets-will-be-free-venue-operator-says/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_brand=p4k&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_twitter)
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 28, 2019, 08:24:58 am
The dead & co are out (fine with me)
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 29, 2019, 09:10:35 am
This has firefest 2 written all over it minus being stranded on some shitty island.
well Trump's current comments on Baltimore... makes it less likely the MAGA crowd will take a chance on getting that close to a 'disgusting and rat infested mess'
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 29, 2019, 12:31:38 pm
as recent as Sunday night, Hurwitz was saying he had not yet seen any proposed acts. “We’re still waiting to hear who is playing, but that’s not our job,” said Hurwitz. “They do still have a venue if they have a show.”

No matter Woodstock 50’s motivations, this coming week looks to be pivotal with so much riding on the decisions currently being made by artists along with their managers and agents as to whether they'll play or skip the jeopardized music festival which even at this late date still could happen in some form.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: MAGA 2020 on July 29, 2019, 06:38:36 pm
This has firefest 2 written all over it minus being stranded on some shitty island.
well Trump's current comments on Baltimore... makes it less likely the MAGA crowd will take a chance on getting that close to a 'disgusting and rat infested mess'

Love or Hate Trump I can't really disagree with him on his Bmore comments.  The city (minus a few white/rich) areas is a dump.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: hutch on July 29, 2019, 07:33:21 pm
But is that the point?

I mean it’s one thing if we talk badly about a city but for the President to trash a major American city, call it rat infested and say nobody wants to live there?

Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 30, 2019, 06:26:45 am
Say it ain’t so ( country) joe (McDonald)
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: K8teebug on July 30, 2019, 08:58:23 am
This has firefest 2 written all over it minus being stranded on some shitty island.
well Trump's current comments on Baltimore... makes it less likely the MAGA crowd will take a chance on getting that close to a 'disgusting and rat infested mess'

Love or Hate Trump I can't really disagree with him on his Bmore comments.  The city (minus a few white/rich) areas is a dump.

Where exactly have you been in Baltimore? I am from Baltimore, and the people and neighborhoods are some of the best in America. People from Baltimore do not shy away from the challenges the people and the city are facing. I wish instead of dismissing it, people would educate themselves about the systematic racism that has been part of the city since the 50's, and work to change it like so many of us are doing.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: hutch on July 30, 2019, 10:16:24 am
All major cities have bad areas...the point is Trump shouldn’t be saying those things about a city where Americans live


It’s not about debating wether Baltimore is a shithole


Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on July 30, 2019, 10:26:40 am
I dirve through a lot of Baltimore to go to the Kennedy Krieger Center and I have to say I have never seen anything as bad...its like Mad Max or some movie after a nuclear holocaust.. I'm guessing many people who live in Baltimore never go into these areas.. these areas are obviously the high crime areas....

so true about Baltimore.. they got the fat chicks over there

Yes..my favorite singer of all time and arguably the greatest American singer....born 100 years ago tomorrow in Philly... subsequently grew up in the whorehouses of Baltimore (ahh..Baltimore.....driving around not much has changed) before moving to NYC . . .

I've driven by there a lot taking my kids up to Kennedy Krieger.. nobody should live there.. I have seen things there you don't expect to see.. burning cars.. people motoring along major roads in wheelchairs....cops everywhere.. .crack hoes...you name it..

the low end of baltimore is really low....

Baltimore should be avoided entirely....

I think this should have been a natural DC show...in DC they would have done allright..Baltimore is kind of a dump riot ridden city without too many people..
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: hutch on July 30, 2019, 10:49:33 am
But I stand by that..the point is I am not the President


I do think Baltimore has incredibly poor areas but am not familiar with say Detroit
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: hutch on July 30, 2019, 10:51:55 am
People are so obtuse..the point is not to debate whether Baltimore is a shithole or not


The point is the President shouldn’t be saying those sorts of things
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on July 30, 2019, 11:00:05 am
(https://i.imgflip.com/1p0bqm.jpg)
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: hutch on July 30, 2019, 11:17:32 am
Since I am not President it’s obviously not the same
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 30, 2019, 11:31:24 am
Since I am not President it’s obviously not the same
it's not
little comical with your past comments on b-more, but is a false equivalent

but this is how he stokes his base....who is white and rural
make fun of the 'colured folk' and scary cities
and his base is like "hell yea m'fer...I was just thinking the exact same thing. Finally a president who thinks like me, hold my beer while I put 5 m-80s under this port-a-john"
but people in Baltimore are Americans, not some shithole country
additionally, a mayor or Governor is more responsible for taking care of the day to day, not a congressperson


he's not the president of the Republican party, he's the president of ALL AMERICANS
and he should not be taking pot shots at Americans and the places they live
but this is Trump

My issue is all the people with R next to their name rarely come to the defense of Americans even if they aren't in their district
truly a sad state of affairs, god help me if the Dems can't get it together for 2020
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: sweetcell on July 30, 2019, 01:13:38 pm
I dirve through a lot of Baltimore to go to the Kennedy Krieger Center and I have to say I have never seen anything as bad...its like Mad Max or some movie after a nuclear holocaust.. I'm guessing many people who live in Baltimore never go into these areas.. these areas are obviously the high crime areas....

so true about Baltimore.. they got the fat chicks over there

Yes..my favorite singer of all time and arguably the greatest American singer....born 100 years ago tomorrow in Philly... subsequently grew up in the whorehouses of Baltimore (ahh..Baltimore.....driving around not much has changed) before moving to NYC . . .

I've driven by there a lot taking my kids up to Kennedy Krieger.. nobody should live there.. I have seen things there you don't expect to see.. burning cars.. people motoring along major roads in wheelchairs....cops everywhere.. .crack hoes...you name it..

the low end of baltimore is really low....

Baltimore should be avoided entirely....

I think this should have been a natural DC show...in DC they would have done allright..Baltimore is kind of a dump riot ridden city without too many people..

ggw'd
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: grateful tagle zuppi pizzaboli on July 30, 2019, 01:15:18 pm
You guys are ruining Woodstock.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on July 30, 2019, 01:17:46 pm
ggw'd
Someone has to pick up the slack in his absence.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: hutch on July 30, 2019, 02:05:17 pm
I took the kids to the National Aquarium a few weeks ago in broad daylight and we were hit up for money by some pretty scary looking people...this was inner harbor


There are things I like about Baltimore but we as a country need a massive Marshall Plan like plan to fix it...and while I don’t blame Elijah Cummings I do think local leadership has largely failed...

But I go back to the fact that the US President should not be talking down a US city and it’s residents

Thursday I will drive to Kennedy Krieger for my kids annual appointment and I will see some crazy things I am sure...
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on July 30, 2019, 02:43:40 pm
What part of Baltimore is Kennedy Krieger in?  Plus working in DC, around Chinatown, during mid-day, I see some crazy things happening, and get plenty of beggars there and Union Station...so these issues can be found in plenty of urban areas.

I took the kids to the National Aquarium a few weeks ago in broad daylight and we were hit up for money by some pretty scary looking people...this was inner harbor


There are things I like about Baltimore but we as a country need a massive Marshall Plan like plan to fix it...and while I don’t blame Elijah Cummings I do think local leadership has largely failed...

But I go back to the fact that the US President should not be talking down a US city and it’s residents

Thursday I will drive to Kennedy Krieger for my kids annual appointment and I will see some crazy things I am sure...
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: challenged on July 30, 2019, 05:24:12 pm
What part of Baltimore is Kennedy Krieger in?  Plus working in DC, around Chinatown, during mid-day, I see some crazy things happening, and get plenty of beggars there and Union Station...so these issues can be found in plenty of urban areas.

I took the kids to the National Aquarium a few weeks ago in broad daylight and we were hit up for money by some pretty scary looking people...this was inner harbor


There are things I like about Baltimore but we as a country need a massive Marshall Plan like plan to fix it...and while I don’t blame Elijah Cummings I do think local leadership has largely failed...

But I go back to the fact that the US President should not be talking down a US city and it’s residents

Thursday I will drive to Kennedy Krieger for my kids annual appointment and I will see some crazy things I am sure...

Most of KKI is down on the east side of town near JHU Hospital complex: not a pleasant area. But there are signs of folks trying to improve it.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: grateful tagle zuppi pizzaboli on July 30, 2019, 05:27:43 pm
"UPDATE: Following the departure of the Raconteurs, a rep for the Lumineers confirmed to Rolling Stone that the Denver folk-rock band will also not be performing at Woodstock 50. Carlos Santana, who has a show booked at nearby Jiffy Lube Arena in Bristow, VA on August 14th, will also not be performing. “Carlos is definitively not playing Merriwether Post Pavilion and has added his name to those who will not be appearing,” Santana’s rep tells Rolling Stone. “We can’t come back and do a free show two days after a paid show. Go buy a ticket to the Supernatural show!”"
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: hutch on July 30, 2019, 05:29:03 pm
Every day that passes I think this is less likely to happen
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 30, 2019, 06:01:29 pm
not the Lumineers....I'm so out now...
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 30, 2019, 08:01:00 pm
Not Miley  8)
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on July 30, 2019, 08:02:04 pm
not the Lumineers....I'm so out now...
Ditto. The Lumineers pulling out was the exact moment I thought this whole thing lost the spirit of the original Woodstock.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 31, 2019, 09:41:12 am
So far the Zombies are still onboard, so perhaps Woodstock 50 can rebrand as, you know, just a Zombies concert
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on July 31, 2019, 11:17:51 am
I'm in!

So far the Zombies are still onboard, so perhaps Woodstock 50 can rebrand as, you know, just a Zombies concert
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: vansmack on July 31, 2019, 12:56:12 pm
not the Lumineers....I'm so out now...
Ditto. The Lumineers pulling out was the exact moment I thought this whole thing lost the spirit of the original Woodstock.

Are you sure it wasn't Santana pulling out because, well, there's money to be made at the Lube?
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: sweetcell on July 31, 2019, 01:20:45 pm
not the Lumineers....I'm so out now...
Ditto. The Lumineers pulling out was the exact moment I thought this whole thing lost the spirit of the original Woodstock.

Are you sure it wasn't Santana pulling out because, well, there's money to be made at the Lube?

wait - the Lube is responsible for Santana pulling out?
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 31, 2019, 01:27:30 pm
not the Lumineers....I'm so out now...
Ditto. The Lumineers pulling out was the exact moment I thought this whole thing lost the spirit of the original Woodstock.

Are you sure it wasn't Santana pulling out because, well, there's money to be made at the Lube?

wait - the Lube is responsible for Santana pulling out?
there's gotta be a good blue joke there....
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on July 31, 2019, 01:34:59 pm
not the Lumineers....I'm so out now...
Ditto. The Lumineers pulling out was the exact moment I thought this whole thing lost the spirit of the original Woodstock.

Are you sure it wasn't Santana pulling out because, well, there's money to be made at the Lube?
No. This was basically 1969 redux right up until Mumford & So-- I mean, the Lumineers -- pulled out.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Got Haggis? on July 31, 2019, 02:51:54 pm
officially cancelled now
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on July 31, 2019, 02:57:47 pm
I mean, how could anyone reasonably expect it to go on after Frank Turner's Milquetoast Revie-- I mean, the Lumineers, pulled out? *shrug*
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: Mobius on July 31, 2019, 04:09:42 pm
Maybe still a chance for a ‘Surprise! At the Club!  Woodstock!’
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: notme on August 01, 2019, 02:21:19 pm
Hopefully someone will do a Altamont 50 concert.
Title: Re: Ummm, Woodstock??
Post by: grateful tagle zuppi pizzaboli on August 01, 2019, 02:37:56 pm
Hopefully someone will do a Altamont 50 concert.

Post of the semi-centennial?