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Re: Pogues tickets...
« Reply #45 on: December 13, 2005, 10:30:00 am »
Hmmmmm...interesting thought process, but fascinating. I guess I'm the sort of person that would rather take extra tickets (if I have them or come upon them) and sell them for face value and then give a chance to people who cannot afford to pay exorbitant prices to see a band. And I can't help but think it's funny that someone who would criticize me for going to see the Shins both nights in a row and "not giving others a chance to see them" (I'm paraphrashing) would have no issues with excluding people of a more moderate means from seeing the Pogues based on the weight of their wallet. It says to me that ultimately the music isn't really what brings you here, but hey, do what you want. I am fascinated by what people think is acceptable.

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« Reply #46 on: December 13, 2005, 02:03:00 pm »
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Originally posted by ThatNewAsshole:
  i saw a pogues-like band at iota.
Are you talking about the band that opened for the Fleshtones?  I kinda enjoyed a couple songs, but then found them tiresome too...

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« Reply #47 on: December 13, 2005, 05:17:00 pm »
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Originally posted by chokeychicken:
  whatever.  scalpers provide a service that the public yearns for, just like anything else you spend your money on.
Not really.  They circumvent the system, with sometimes illegal means, and prevent people from having a fair chance at getting tickets.
 
 What do they do?
 
 - hire people to go online and buy tickets to increase the chances that they, the scalpers, will get tickets, and get a good supply of tickets.
 
 - buy multiple memberships to a band's fan club so they have more chances at advance pre-sales.
 
 - hire people to stand in line at a box office in order to buy more tickets
 
 Scalping is illegal in many states.  Sure, you can argue supply/demand, but by circumventing the system, they sometimes create  a false demand by purchasing a ton of tickets at the regular price, and then jacking up the price for re-sale.

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« Reply #48 on: December 13, 2005, 06:54:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Arlette:
  Not really.  They circumvent the system, with sometimes illegal means, and prevent people from having a fair chance at getting tickets.
 
 What do they do?
 
 - hire people to go online and buy tickets to increase the chances that they, the scalpers, will get tickets, and get a good supply of tickets.
 
 - buy multiple memberships to a band's fan club so they have more chances at advance pre-sales.
 
 - hire people to stand in line at a box office in order to buy more tickets
 
 Scalping is illegal in many states.  Sure, you can argue supply/demand, but by circumventing the system, they sometimes create  a false demand by purchasing a ton of tickets at the regular price, and then jacking up the price for re-sale.
I hate scalpers as much as anybody, but your examples don't demonstrate circumventing the system.  They demonstrate how to make the system work for you.  Standing in line, buying multiple fan club memberships, or getting a bunch of your friends to go online when tickets go on sale are all options available to everybody. There's nothing really underhanded about them.

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« Reply #49 on: December 13, 2005, 06:54:00 pm »
The Fighting Irish- Second Pogues Show Added!
 The first night of The Pogues reunion show sold out in mere minutes, so expect nothing short of the same for the second night (you've been warned). This year St. Paddy's Day comes early.
 
 THE POGUES
 featuring Shane MacGowan ? Jem Finer ? Spider Stacy ? James Fearnley ? Darryl Hunt ? Andrew Ranken ? Philip Chevron ? Terry Woods
 Thursday, March 9
 10pm Doors
 On sale Friday, December 16 @ 10am through Tickets.com

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« Reply #50 on: December 13, 2005, 07:05:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
 anything I own is for sale if the price is right.
How much for your wife? I'll give you a couple of camels and a goat [/b]
I'm sorry... I missed the part where wives are property to be owned.
 
 And camels are smelly, anyway.  ;)

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« Reply #51 on: December 13, 2005, 08:04:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
   
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Originally posted by Arlette:
  Not really.  They circumvent the system, with sometimes illegal means, and prevent people from having a fair chance at getting tickets.
 
 What do they do?
 
 - hire people to go online and buy tickets to increase the chances that they, the scalpers, will get tickets, and get a good supply of tickets.
 
 - buy multiple memberships to a band's fan club so they have more chances at advance pre-sales.
 
 - hire people to stand in line at a box office in order to buy more tickets
 
 Scalping is illegal in many states.  Sure, you can argue supply/demand, but by circumventing the system, they sometimes create  a false demand by purchasing a ton of tickets at the regular price, and then jacking up the price for re-sale.
I hate scalpers as much as anybody, but your examples don't demonstrate circumventing the system.  They demonstrate how to make the system work for you.  Standing in line, buying multiple fan club memberships, or getting a bunch of your friends to go online when tickets go on sale are all options available to everybody. There's nothing really underhanded about them. [/b]
But they are breaking the rules, and in some cases the law.  That is underhanded.  
 
 From the NIN fan club.  Pretty long, but first sentence says it all.  
 
 Ticket brokers may not join the Nine Inch Nails fan club, and if a member is found selling tickets for profit, his/her membership will be voided without return of the membership fee. All ticket orders must be placed in the name of the corresponding fan club member. If we discover that an order has been placed in another person??s name, we reserve the right to revoke the membership and cancel the ticket order. If you are found to be, or we in good faith believe you are reselling, trading or brokering tickets for profit that you purchased through this site, we may at our sole discretion cancel all or part of your ticket order and all or part of other pending orders in your name and/or put all or part of your orders and all or part of your other pending orders in your name at will-call for pick-up only by you. If we cancel your tickets, a refund of the total face value of the tickets minus a $7 per ticket processing fee will be issued to the card used to place the order. No other service, processing or shipping fees charged at the time of purchase will be refunded. If tickets are placed at will-call, only the person whose name is on the order can pick them up. No will-call name changes will be allowed. We reserve the right to investigate, cancel or ??will call? all orders we, in good faith, suspect to be in violation of this policy. We are the final authority on the interpretation of the rules in this policy. As part of our efforts to keep brokers out, we will specify guidelines for ticket purchasing on the web site, and we will email members ahead of time as to any changes to these policies.

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Re: Pogues tickets...
« Reply #52 on: December 14, 2005, 01:01:00 am »
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 Ticket brokers may not join the Nine Inch Nails fan club, and if a member is found selling tickets for profit, his/her membership will be voided without return of the membership fee.
I appreciate the point, but it's tainted by a band that charges its fans to join their fan club.  I know, I know, Pearl Jam does it.  Still an odd concept to me.

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« Reply #53 on: December 14, 2005, 09:20:00 am »
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Bags:
   
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ThatNewAsshole:
  i saw a pogues-like band at iota.
Are you talking about the band that opened for the Fleshtones? I kinda enjoyed a couple songs, but then found them tiresome too... [/b]
yes i think so bags. wonder if i saw u there. me, tall lean dark-blond guy probably in dieter-schprockets-'now is the time when donce'-glasses.   :cool:

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« Reply #54 on: December 14, 2005, 09:28:00 am »
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Originally posted by Bags:
   
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Originally posted by Arlette:
 
 Ticket brokers may not join the Nine Inch Nails fan club, and if a member is found selling tickets for profit, his/her membership will be voided without return of the membership fee.
I appreciate the point, but it's tainted by a band that charges its fans to join their fan club.  I know, I know, Pearl Jam does it.  Still an odd concept to me. [/b]
Not only do they charge, but they also "spam" members with sales info. about merch.  Velvet Revolver is doing the same, with recent spam about their Holiday Calendar...WTF?  Between off-shore pharmacies pitching Viagra/Cialis (yea, baby, just what I need) and fansites/labels sending junk, my email box is looking sort of like my snail-mail box...and handled the same way - toss it all!

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« Reply #55 on: December 14, 2005, 09:30:00 am »
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 toss it all!
You tosser, you.

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« Reply #56 on: December 14, 2005, 09:49:00 am »
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Originally posted by Bags:
   
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Originally posted by Arlette:
 
 Ticket brokers may not join the Nine Inch Nails fan club, and if a member is found selling tickets for profit, his/her membership will be voided without return of the membership fee.
I appreciate the point, but it's tainted by a band that charges its fans to join their fan club.  I know, I know, Pearl Jam does it.  Still an odd concept to me. [/b]
Bands have been charging fans to join fan clubs for years, especially if there is any kind of newsletter etc involved as they need money to cover the costs of sendingit out. It's nothing new for Pearl Jam, R.E.M. does.  It's only been recently that the option to buy tickets has become a benefit of joining a fanclub...
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« Reply #57 on: December 14, 2005, 09:55:00 am »
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 Does anyone have the addy for the Gary Glitter fan club?

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Re: Pogues tickets...
« Reply #58 on: December 14, 2005, 10:36:00 am »
Receiving unsolicited e-mails about perscription drugs is a much different entity than receiving e-mails about merchandise for sale by a band whose fan club you signed up for (willingly, I'm assuming) and who you gave an e-mail address to.  
 
 But then again, I guess that's what you risk when you sign up for Velvet Revolver's fan club...
 
 
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 Not only do they charge, but they also "spam" members with sales info. about merch.  Velvet Revolver is doing the same, with recent spam about their Holiday Calendar...WTF?  Between off-shore pharmacies pitching Viagra/Cialis (yea, baby, just what I need) and fansites/labels sending junk, my email box is looking sort of like my snail-mail box...and handled the same way - toss it all!

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« Reply #59 on: December 14, 2005, 06:33:00 pm »
I'm a member of a couple of band's fan clubs just so I can get an early shot at tickets.  I pay $25 or $30, join for a year, then get in on the fan club only pre-sales.  I don't mind spending the extra $25 per year; sheesh, I blow more than that on drinks in one night.  
 
 Plus, some of the fan clubs actually give you cool stuff, like exclusive releases.