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gavroche

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Re: The Mueller report thread
« Reply #150 on: July 24, 2019, 06:19:44 pm »
then impeachment

Itís embarrassing as the only thing that will take him down is the ballot box


The question is whether impeachment helps take him down at the ballot box.  Pelosi thinks no.  I am not alone in thinking having the investigation, and the additional information they are likely to find (including making it more likely that they get his tax returns), would help them in 2020.

You can make credible arguments either way, depending on what history you think is relevant.  That said, I think doing it further away from the election would be more beneficial to them and that they have probably missed their window.

This is all about winning in 2020 though (it's not like anyone wants Pence).   
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Re: The Mueller report thread
« Reply #151 on: July 24, 2019, 08:24:23 pm »
(it's not like anyone wants Pence).
you know I don't like pence and there would be some serious religion in gov't stuff I wouldn't like
but I would take him over Trump for sure
there is no way he'd win reelection
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WalkOnBack

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Re: The Mueller report thread
« Reply #152 on: July 24, 2019, 09:05:18 pm »
You would take Pence over, mister faking it for fun Trump?  I, hate you, for realz.  Either you understand why Pence is the dark hole,  or I, still hate you.

Re: The Mueller report thread
« Reply #153 on: July 25, 2019, 08:47:18 am »
pence is one backwards m-fer.  but he would not be as bad as trump

he wouldn't be able to get gay-concentration camps approved although the ten commandments might end up on my drivers license

He wouldn't be the cult of personality that trump is and wouldn't be able to get anything done
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nkotb

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Re: The Mueller report thread
« Reply #154 on: July 25, 2019, 09:22:25 am »
Maybe...I do worry that through like a contact high, he'd have some residual MAGA strength, especially if Trump was removed or died (KILLED BY THE DEEP STATE).

But my bigger worry is getting a psycho like him in office, who adheres to the Norms, would have most Dems bending over backwards to work with him, and breathing a sigh of relief that, while we may disagree on policy, it's nice to have things sane again. I mean, they already give Trump a blank check all while mentioning that he's a unique horror that's propped up by foreign governments.

EDIT: Quick edit to confirm, however, that if Trump does die, I'm immediately heading to the first bar I can find and buying a round for everyone.  Fuck these pigs.

pence is one backwards m-fer.  but he would not be as bad as trump

he wouldn't be able to get gay-concentration camps approved although the ten commandments might end up on my drivers license

He wouldn't be the cult of personality that trump is and wouldn't be able to get anything done

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Re: The Mueller report thread
« Reply #155 on: July 25, 2019, 09:28:16 am »
Be careful what you say on the internet.

nkotb

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Re: The Mueller report thread
« Reply #156 on: July 25, 2019, 09:31:09 am »
Renditioned to a Black Ops site for Truth

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Re: The Mueller report thread
« Reply #157 on: July 25, 2019, 10:07:54 am »

vansmack

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Re: The Mueller report thread
« Reply #158 on: July 25, 2019, 02:41:36 pm »
It's the duty of congress to impeach.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/impeachment-trump/580468/

Such a bold, straightforward statement: "With a newly seated Democratic majority, the House of Representatives can no longer dodge its constitutional duty."

Then the author immediately explains it isn't actually true:

"Although the process is fairly clear, the Founders left us only vague instructions about when to implement it."

The Speaker of the House is under no compulsory, statutory duty to start an impeachment process.  Even the author agrees "This is where the dual nature of impeachment as both a legal and a political process comes into sharpest focus."  And he cited the leading authority on the case from the Nixon days, Bill Weld: "In the end, Weld came to believe that impeachment is a political process, aimed at determining whether a president has fallen short of the duties of his office."

But the author does a fantastic job at revisiting the history of impeachments in the US.  I really enjoyed that part.
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