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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #75 on: December 22, 2004, 03:41:00 pm »
Something which you've NEVER done in this board. Hahahahaha
 
 
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 those who feel insulted insult their own intelligence (or lack thereof) themselves
 
 they don't need me for that
no celeste, you have actually insulted people directly. [/b]

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #76 on: December 22, 2004, 03:42:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Something which you've NEVER done in this board. Hahahahaha
 
i have never told someone they have no intelligence, no.

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #77 on: December 22, 2004, 03:46:00 pm »
<img src="http://deoxy.org/img/mcluhan.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 yup
 
 Originally posted by econo:
  I'm sure McLuhan could have used one as well.

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #78 on: December 22, 2004, 03:48:00 pm »
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  i have never told someone they have no intelligence, no.
I didn't say any one had "no intelligence" either...I'm gonna bail on further discussing this. I think those that can see my point have seen it and those that haven't just don't want to...and I don't care that much anyway. I just reacted earlier to what I felt were a couple of horrible "reviews"...

Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #79 on: December 22, 2004, 03:48:00 pm »
I'm sure you will once you find someone with quantifiably less than yourself.    :D  I suggest going to a hockey game.
 
 
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Something which you've NEVER done in this board. Hahahahaha
 
i have never told someone they have no intelligence, no. [/b]

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #80 on: December 22, 2004, 03:51:00 pm »
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  I just overreacted earlier
apology accepted.

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #81 on: December 22, 2004, 03:58:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Celeste:
  I just overreacted earlier
apology accepted. [/b]
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Originally posted by Celeste:
 I didn't say any one had "no intelligence" either...I'm gonna bail on further discussing this. I think those that can see my point have seen it and those that haven't just don't want to...and I don't care that much anyway. I just reacted earlier to what I felt were a couple of horrible "reviews"...
nice try, sonick

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #82 on: December 22, 2004, 04:03:00 pm »
you remind me of that Spin Doctors song "Little Miss Can't Be Wrong"

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #83 on: December 22, 2004, 04:07:00 pm »
I'm a Mrs.

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #84 on: December 22, 2004, 04:43:00 pm »
Going back through all this, it does not seem entirely surprising that an outlet that normally reviews mainstream indie recordings does not like or have much knowledge of country recordings.
 
 Moreover it may do its readership a disservice by recommending such records to its readers who are probably mainstream indie fans.
 
 Just a thought.

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #85 on: December 22, 2004, 04:45:00 pm »
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  I'm a Mrs.
Are you entirely sure about that?
 
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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #86 on: December 22, 2004, 04:49:00 pm »
uh oh...that one hits too close to the bone

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #87 on: December 22, 2004, 04:54:00 pm »
I don't know any of you and don't want to get involved in your personal fights but I had a question-
 What exactly "qualifies" someone to be a record reviewer- that seems to be what the thread started as? (I highly doubt that most reviewers have some sort of music history degree as a background to qualify them). I would posit that it would be impossible for any music reviewer to be intimately familar with every artist they review to the level that they can cite every prior work, influence, and motivation. Plus part of the experience of encountering any art is to take away your own message not necessarily what the maker intended. Flame away.

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #88 on: December 22, 2004, 05:02:00 pm »
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  Flame away.
There's nothing to flame in your comment. Congrats!  ;)

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #89 on: December 22, 2004, 05:04:00 pm »
Good Afternoon.
 
 My name is Jaron, and I am the writer of the aforementioned Loretta Lynn review. I would like to start by saying that my views do not constitute the general opinion of BigYawn, any writer not named "Jaron," or the guy who runs the site. As Eric already pointed out somewhere in this quagmire of a hissy fit, he likes country music. I do not. However, my bias does not change or discredit the two central points of my review, namely: (1) that the indie rock community would not care about Loretta Lynn's album, absent Jack White's association with it, and (2) that the mad rush to give rave reviews to said record (i.e. Pitchfork just included it in it's top 50 of 2004) speaks a paradox of sorts; if Van Lear Rose is truly deserving of a 9 of 10 rating, then - this being an average, par-for-the-course Loretta Lynn album representative of her body of work - the indie rock community has ignored lavishing similar praise on equal records from Ms. Lynn's back catalogue. So, no matter how you want to slice it, they're either pandering or derelict in their goal of informing us of decent music.
 
 That said, Celeste, or whoever still cares 85 posts into this thread, that's my opinion and you're totally entitled to disagree. I said it was an average Loretta Lynn record, in that it sounds on par with her other work, and gave her the rating that from our standard is average - a 5. On a tangental note, I find it funny you and Rhett seem so heaven sent against Eric "advertising" on here (and I'm not neccessarily going to disagree with you on that), yet you cannot follow up your disgust for such actions with taking the high road and emailing myself, or the site's webmaster. Several people have emailed me about reviews they've disagreed with in the past (in particular, one I wrote about Wilco), and the majority was able to express in a more mature manor then crying on 930.com. The thought of you calling my reviews condescending and then throwing a hissy fit on a venue's website is hypocritical at best. I encourage you to email myself or post commentary on BigYawn's message board if you have a follow-up or would like to engage in an actual discussion of the merits of recent album releases, as I will not waste 9:30's bandwidth any longer airing our dirty laundry. It's funny, one of the things I was thinking about earlier this week was suggesting to Eric that we have a mailbox section where people can write in and disagree, and we'd post them on the site in the spirit of fairness. Perhaps in light of this recent unpleasentness, that is an idea we'll take under advisement, but then again, I do not run the site, I just write "closed-minded bigoted rants."
 
 I'm sure I speak for both myself and Eric when I say we appreciate your interest, and your obvious readership of his site and my work. On a personal note, it's so rewarding to see when something I create has such a profound effect on other's lives. I never write a review saying to myself, "Oh, boy, I hope someone will be so clearly affected by my opinion - so stirred with feeling and rancor - that they run to the streets, wraught with emotion, and have to tell others what they've seen," but when it does happen, it's most rewarding. Thank you, God bless.
 
 -jaron
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