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Brian_Wallace

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« Reply #510 on: March 07, 2008, 03:07:00 pm »
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  I would start here: The Blueprint for Change
You're so naive and smug.  To quote Michael Strahan (by way of Mike Tyson):
 
 "Everybody's got a plan...until they get punched in the face."
 
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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #511 on: March 07, 2008, 03:12:00 pm »
Would someone please explain to me what Hillary's "plan" is and why it is superior to Obama's?

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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #512 on: March 07, 2008, 03:16:00 pm »
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Would someone please explain to me what Hillary's "plan" is and why it is superior to Obama's?
If it's a woman:  Start crying and make them empathize.
 
 If it's a man: kick 'em in the balls.
 
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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #513 on: March 07, 2008, 04:13:00 pm »
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  You're so naive and smug.
Me and 13,570,500 other people.
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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #514 on: March 07, 2008, 04:46:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Mobius:
 
 The risk is that focusing on Hillary may take his eye off the ball.  He can't lose sight of his message and goals.
 
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...and that message would be what exactly?
 
 HOPE....CHANGE.....HOPE....CHANGE....HOPE....CHANGE.
 
 Call me stupid but I need a bit more than that to become and Osama sheeple [/b]
This is exactly the 'cartoonization' that Obama has to fight  He has expressed a lot of substance behind the 'change' theme, particularly in the Texas and Ohio debates.  
 
 Great example is the $4,000 tuition subsidy for students who do community service.  Fantastic idea.  Exemplifies logical governance and a government focused on helping citizens who are committed to helping themselves and society.  That's what people are rallying behind.  That's real.
 
 I think Hillary relies on the platitudes.  Hillary's "solutions".  What are they?  What has she ever solved?
 
 And the truth is the ability to inspire is the greatest asset a president can have. Its the characteristic that links all the best remembered presidents.  An inspired country solves its problems.  
 
 Its ridiculous for a candidate's ability to inspire be used against him/her.

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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #515 on: March 07, 2008, 06:53:00 pm »
I'm a little disappointed in Obama's willingness/ability to broaden his message (and I don't mean indulging in attacks, which I believe is not necessary, and has been one of his strong points so far).   He has the substance to back up his style, as anyone who has watched him debate knows -- but he has been too slow to incorporate that into his speeches.
 
 The idiots -- Obamamaniacs -- who are fainting at his rallies don't help either.  They ought to find a way to screen people like that out.   Reminds me of the lame poseurs who used to cry at Rites of Spring shows here in DC back in the day, because they were supposedly so emotionally overwhelmed.
 
 I still think he'd make a vastly better president than Hillary, whom for all her crowing about "experience," really has none that is significant.  Travelled to foreign countries?  Been woken up by a phone at 3am?  I've done those things too, doesn't mean I'm qualified to be president.
 
 But between his somewhat lame adaptibility, and Hillary's "I'll destroy the Democratic party if that's what it takes to win" attitude, I think McCain must be rubbing his aged hands in glee.
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« Reply #516 on: March 07, 2008, 07:01:00 pm »
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
  I'm a little disappointed in Obama's willingness/ability to broaden his message (and I don't mean indulging in attacks, which I believe is not necessary, and has been one of his strong points so far).   He has the substance to back up his style, as anyone who has watched him debate knows -- but he has been too slow to incorporate that into his speeches.
 
 The idiots -- Obamamaniacs -- who are fainting at his rallies don't help either.  They ought to find a way to screen people like that out.   Reminds me of the lame poseurs who used to cry at Rites of Spring shows here in DC back in the day, because they were supposedly so emotionally overwhelmed.
 
 I still think he'd make a vastly better president than Hillary, whom for all her crowing about "experience," really has none that is significant.  Travelled to foreign countries?  Been woken up by a phone at 3am?  I've done those things too, doesn't mean I'm qualified to be president.
 
 But between his somewhat lame adaptibility, and Hillary's "I'll destroy the Democratic party if that's what it takes to win" attitude, I think McCain must be rubbing his aged hands in glee.
I'd probably vote for you over the other three choices...

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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #517 on: March 07, 2008, 07:08:00 pm »
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  I'd probably vote for you over the other three choices...
Hey Doom - free campaing advice from Smackie.
 
 This is not the endorsement you want from the boardies.
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« Reply #518 on: March 07, 2008, 07:10:00 pm »
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 I'd probably vote for you over the other three choices...
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Frank Gallagher

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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #519 on: March 07, 2008, 08:24:00 pm »
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Would someone please explain to me what Hillary's "plan" is and why it is superior to Obama's?
I'm no Hillary fan, I just haven't bought into Obama's sales pitch. My wife has and we talk about it quite a bit...she tells me he's refreshing so I tell her I'd better vote for a carton of Tropicana because so is chilled orange juice not from concentrate.
 
 I'm like the vast majority of voters and I'm not going to search out Obama's 'manifesto' I'm going to decide who's the better candidate from what I see during debates and what I read on the internet, which seems to be a little less biased than the news media, because they tend to have their own agenda as we all know.
 
 Basically, from what I've seen he's said nothing..and I mean NOTHING. Hillary's no better really but there's so many in awe of this one term senator and I just don't see it.

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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #520 on: March 08, 2008, 10:37:00 am »
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Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  I'd probably vote for you over the other three choices...
Hey Doom - free campaing advice from Smackie.
 
 This is not the endorsement you want from the boardies. [/b]
What do you mean...he's already got more votes than Nader will get..


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« Reply #522 on: March 11, 2008, 02:08:00 pm »
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  pollard. . .you're beloved talking points:
 
TPM is just one site of many I read on a daily basis, but just so you know, plenty of Obama supporters give them crap for favoring Hillary by just reciting her campaigns conference call every morning, and I also rarely read TPM cafe or reader posts on there, stick to the 3 main writers they do a pretty good job of reporting
 
 and if you want to talk bias, you dont need to look any further than the site you just linked from, Taylor Marsh is just about the worst when it comes to being in the bag for one candidate at any cost (she lead the effort to tie Obama to The Weather Underground)

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« Reply #523 on: March 11, 2008, 02:10:00 pm »
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  (she lead the effort to tie Obama to The Weather Underground)
Obama had something to do with shitty mall-punk band AFI's latest aural-abortion? Brutal!

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Re: DC Area Voters
« Reply #524 on: March 11, 2008, 02:11:00 pm »
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 and if you want to talk bias, you dont need to look any further than the site you just linked from, Taylor Marsh is just about the worst when it comes to being in the bag for one candidate at any cost (she lead the effort to tie Obama to The Weather Underground)
i wouldn't know anything about that. . the past week or so has been enjoyable reading from my side.
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