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Like I'm sure a 73 year old woman who lives alone in a trailer park with her precious metals under her bed next to a trailer full of methheads would own a gun because she desires to feel powerful and macho.Quote from: sweetcell on October 24, 2014, 05:55:00 pmthe argument that "if you ban guns, only criminals will have them" is asinine. if you follow that logic, there is no point in making anything illegal. why make murder illegal? only criminals will murder! why making speeding illegal? only speeders will speed!newsflash: the reason why you make something illegal is to stop most from doing it, and to have a framework to punish those who don't. just because it won't be 100% effective isn't a reason to not do it.and to those idiots who claim "but we'll be less safe without our guns" - WAY more people are killed by gun accidents every year than are saved from home invasions (a complete bogeyman) or other instances where a gun was "needed for defense".gun nuts need to admit something: they like guns because it makes them feel powerful. which is fine, in abstract; but the toll guns extract on society makes this bit of machoism irresponsible and selfish.
the argument that "if you ban guns, only criminals will have them" is asinine. if you follow that logic, there is no point in making anything illegal. why make murder illegal? only criminals will murder! why making speeding illegal? only speeders will speed!newsflash: the reason why you make something illegal is to stop most from doing it, and to have a framework to punish those who don't. just because it won't be 100% effective isn't a reason to not do it.and to those idiots who claim "but we'll be less safe without our guns" - WAY more people are killed by gun accidents every year than are saved from home invasions (a complete bogeyman) or other instances where a gun was "needed for defense".gun nuts need to admit something: they like guns because it makes them feel powerful. which is fine, in abstract; but the toll guns extract on society makes this bit of machoism irresponsible and selfish.
Quote from: sweetcell on October 24, 2014, 05:57:01 pmQuote from: RatBastard on October 24, 2014, 05:13:49 pm I was pointing out that 'banning' something does not make that thing go away. If you are not intelligent enough to recognize that fact then there really is no point having this discussion any further. Enjoy your rose colored glasses. Next! actually, RB, there is no point in discussing intelligently with you. if something isn't 100% effective there no point in doing it? murders still happen, so we should just make it legal since it's going to happen anyways? brilliant. if we ban RB from the forum, we certainly wouldn't get rid of ALL the stupid posts, but it certainly would help.
Quote from: RatBastard on October 24, 2014, 05:13:49 pm I was pointing out that 'banning' something does not make that thing go away. If you are not intelligent enough to recognize that fact then there really is no point having this discussion any further. Enjoy your rose colored glasses. Next! actually, RB, there is no point in discussing intelligently with you. if something isn't 100% effective there no point in doing it? murders still happen, so we should just make it legal since it's going to happen anyways? brilliant.
I was pointing out that 'banning' something does not make that thing go away. If you are not intelligent enough to recognize that fact then there really is no point having this discussion any further. Enjoy your rose colored glasses. Next!
gun nuts need to admit something: they like guns because it makes them feel powerful. which is fine, in abstract; but the toll guns extract on society makes this bit of machoism irresponsible and selfish.
WAY more people are killed by gun accidents every year than are saved from home invasions (a complete bogeyman) or other instances where a gun was "needed for defense".sm irresponsible and selfish.
Hey, no need to insult my intelligence.
REALLY? He got kicked out for THAT? Wow what is this country coming to?
To me, handguns are like abortions. Only under rare circumstances would i choose to have one, but I'd never deny others the right to have one.
I got banned from a pro wrestling site.My life has reached a dark place.
Quote from: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 27, 2014, 04:32:59 pmI got banned from a pro wrestling site.My life has reached a dark place.SN: has anyone ever seen DFA1979 and killsaly in the same place at the same time?