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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #1995 on: December 16, 2020, 09:57:24 pm »
we have to try, we can't just give up
if people want to be willfully ignorant, well we'll just have to deal with that on a case by case basis
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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #1996 on: December 16, 2020, 09:59:15 pm »
I'm with Hutch, skeptical that people who don't have ample paid sick leave are going to stay home from work just because of a positive test result.
Maybe Congress passes a Covid Sick leave plan
where if you test positive, the gov't will pay your employer your salary for 1 month
I just found $2.6 bill, not sure it that will pay for all of that, but it's a start
what if we cut off funding to PBS, that's like 5 trillion right?
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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #1997 on: December 16, 2020, 10:00:30 pm »
I agree we have to try using all tools and policies at our disposal but we need to be realistic. There is no reason to think these rapid tests will in it of themselves control the pandemic. How much they may help is unclear to me...

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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #1998 on: December 16, 2020, 10:06:44 pm »
I'm with Hutch, skeptical that people who don't have ample paid sick leave are going to stay home from work just because of a positive test result.
Maybe Congress passes a Covid Sick leave plan
where if you test positive, the gov't will pay your employer your salary for 1 month
I just found $2.6 bill, not sure it that will pay for all of that, but it's a start
what if we cut off funding to PBS, that's like 5 trillion right?

Let's say the average Joe makes 4k per month. 2.6 billion pays for about 650K people to stay home for a month. We're averaging 1.4 million new cases a week.

I was actually making the same argument several months ago, wish the tests had been ready then
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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #1999 on: December 16, 2020, 10:10:31 pm »
No way Republicans will agree to fund this...so unless we pick up both senate seats in Georgia - and I think it’s unlikely-you can forget about it!



Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #2000 on: December 16, 2020, 10:17:41 pm »
Let's say the average Joe makes 4k per month. 2.6 billion pays for about 650K people to stay home for a month. We're averaging 1.4 million new cases a week.
Ok by your math, we'd have 8.4 mil cases in 6 weeks
well I think we can find 33bil ...I say instead of 14 F35s...we make 4
there you go I just found 250 billion

I think massive rapid testing for a sustained period would make a huge difference
imagine we did this in June...probably would have only cost $2.6 bil then

...so unless we pick up both senate seats in Georgia -
is this where I say pendant?


Can someone make a good meme of this, kinda writes itself, but looking for style here
I'm with Hutch
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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #2002 on: December 16, 2020, 10:58:21 pm »
247K today! New record and it's only Wednesday.

Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #2003 on: December 17, 2020, 07:15:01 am »
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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #2005 on: December 17, 2020, 04:12:06 pm »
All for this but are we to think people who won’t wear masks will be responsibly testing themselves?

answer is in the article:


Michael Mina, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, believes if just half the U.S. population were able to test themselves every four days, the country could quickly achieve vaccine-like "herd immunity" by letting people know in real time when they were contagious.
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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #2006 on: December 17, 2020, 04:15:23 pm »
So what would be the motivation for people to take these tests regularly? I tested once for travel purposes back in the summer, and the state I was going to wouldn't even accept this antigen test.

n=1.  we've come a long way (since), baby.

admittedly this isn't everyone, but a lot of people have a sense of personal responsibility, and/or are willing to do their part to slow down the pandemic.  yes, the anti-mask MAGAts get all the attention, but at least around me i see a lot of responsible folks out there on the rare times i go grocery shopping, to the post office, etc.
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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #2007 on: December 17, 2020, 04:40:57 pm »
I'm glad I have sweets on my side!
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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #2008 on: December 17, 2020, 04:59:35 pm »
So what would be the motivation for people to take these tests regularly? I tested once for travel purposes back in the summer, and the state I was going to wouldn't even accept this antigen test.

n=1.  we've come a long way (since), baby.

admittedly this isn't everyone, but a lot of people have a sense of personal responsibility, and/or are willing to do their part to slow down the pandemic.  yes, the anti-mask MAGAts get all the attention, but at least around me i see a lot of responsible folks out there on the rare times i go grocery shopping, to the post office, etc.

As i have since March, i wear my mask everywhere indoors, don't go within 10 feet of anybody outdoors, go to the grocery store at oddball times, telework 100% of the time, have not eaten indoors a single time, etc.....I'll save the tests, which have a high degree of inaccuracy anyway. for those who need and want them. Sorry, that doesn't make me irresponsible.

Now, if they were forcing my kid to go into school in-person, yeah, I'd want to test her regularly. But they're not.

Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #2009 on: December 17, 2020, 05:03:59 pm »
Now, if they were forcing my kid to go into school in-person,
Sweets, I read Inslee is sending the kids back
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